Let’s start a new thread in honor of the death throes of Chinese junk. Fittingly in honor of the opening of the new tera-giga-mega shopping mall Tripla (or a day of flags at half-mast, ed. note!). So: Is Tripla the final climax of the consumerist party before the hangover and humanity coming to its senses? For or against? Will the construction sector go into a long recession at the same time?
Uncle Masse already shared his opinion in another thread, but here it is below:
Has the forum’s parish pastor @Masse been blessing the Tripla shopping center?
It wasn’t Uncle Masse, FA, congregation leader, blessing Tripla. Whatever fake caught in the grip of consumer hysteria happened to be there…
Uncle Masse is more of a sustainable development man. Even my skis are 20 years old; it pays to make “masse” (money), but not by drowning the planet in low-quality junk. Taaleri’s new wind power and other similar investment targets are top-tier. By the way, I think Taaleri was the best insty (institutional investor) of the year.
It’s nice that Pasila now has something other than offices and concrete. Once the initial excitement wears off, this will probably become a normal shopping mall like any other.
Just imagine if everyone did that: consumed sustainably and tried to save nature. Central banks would have to stimulate much more, because otherwise the economic growth targets would not be met.
Sustainable development is therefore useless, because consumption is kept on a certain trajectory by central banks anyway. Your decisions for sustainable consumption cause others to increase their consumption. Quite immoral!
Of course, services can also be “consumer nonsense” - everyone can decide for themselves what is vital for them. Tripla again has more services than ever.
I’ve always wondered about the term “post-industrial society.” In Finland, it seems to refer to a pampered, debt-ridden economy and declining competitiveness
Tripla is going to be a mega-flop. No one ends up in the Pasila area except by accident, and knowing what the traffic arrangements are like, not a single private car owner bringing in big money will go there instead of Jumbo.
Otherwise, I wonder about the logic behind these shopping centers. The middle class is slowly flowing out of Helsinki, so are all of these being kept afloat by selling lattes? There’s also some mysterious concept that purchasing power will just somehow increase as long as a shopping center is built here and there
I don’t understand either, but abroad in many big cities, shopping malls are really popular. One could imagine that Finland would also go in this direction, or at least try to.
Purchasing power increases when I buy a service. The service is produced (for now) by another consumer, who receives a salary, i.e., purchasing power, for it.
When the purchase is a service, there’s no need to transport it home by car.
Actually, exactly. But in sustainable development thinking, as production in Finland and other countries decreases, everyone’s consumption must also decrease (the famous global downshifting). In this case, no free tax euros are given for a new car, new clothes, trips to the south, and other consumer junk. Not to anyone. And in Linkola’s words: the world’s population must be halved.
Consumption decreases, no fossil fuels are needed, the climate doesn’t warm, and the world is saved
Uncle Masse, FA, somewhat surprisingly also a pro in population biology …
However, based on its appearance, Tripla blends into its surroundings and seems to be the only building since the 70s that appears to idealize 70s architectural style
A shopping center and its name can elicit quite a lot of negative feelings. Some people have to commute to Pasila by train from the north. At least for me, it’s a really nice thing that the station will also offer a wide range of services in the future.
As someone who lives near Tripla, I’m at least happy that the services in the area are increasing. I’m not a big fan of shopping centers either, but the services in the area, both shops and restaurants, have been truly dismal before this.
I only got to check out Tripla last week when I returned from a trip to the countryside by train. It’s funny, really, because I live a 15-minute walk away. The shopping center expands nicely from street level to the lower floors; the upper floors are probably reserved for office spaces. The most common retail chains (except for Tokmanni, much to @Masse-uncle’s chagrin ) can be found there, along with a few specialty stores I’d never even heard of. Naturally, restaurant services are also well-represented. Among other entertainment services, there’s a cinema, and probably more if you look closer. The services in the area definitely improved instantly, and the overall experience was quite nice at first sight. The new Pasila station is also in a different league in terms of comfort than the old one.
This time, I believe the builders (YIT) didn’t throw their axe in the stone (made a bad investment); rather, one could question the justification for Redi’s existence, for example. Pasila already has a large concentration of office buildings, and train traffic brings a natural flow of customers.
What’s behind YIT now? A fairly large volume at the open, it rose directly above the resistance level of about €5.9. It raises the question of whether someone knows something I don’t…
Aston_Livingstone:
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) can be found there, along with a few specialty stores I’d never even heard of. Naturally, restaurant services are also well-represented. Among other entertainment services, there’s a cinema, and probably more if you look closer. The services in the area definitely improved instantly, and the overall experience was quite nice at first sight. The new Pasila station is also in a different league in terms of comfort than the old one.