Mental well-being - Mind over matter!

Would a mental well-being thread be suitable for such a cultivated forum? Let’s try it!

Mental well-being, like physical health, can be seen as a continuum. We can have minor physical health problems, such as sprained ankles, colds, stomach bugs, and then always life-threatening illnesses. Similarly, mental well-being can range from mild annoyance and stress to severe depression, which can completely incapacitate a person.

Mental well-being, just like physical well-being, is formed by the influence of three factors. Firstly, there are external influences. On the physical side, we catch a cold as an infectious disease. On the mental side, we read a news item in the evening that causes worry and prevents us from sleeping.

Secondly, there are internal influences. Some are naturally endowed with stronger physical health, and similarly, some have inherently stronger mental well-being. This means that hereditary traits affect how well we endure adversity and maintain balance. Finnish trading star Jebbez said that he treats his investments as if they were “play money.” Most people cannot approach investments as casually as Jebbez. He possesses exceptional innate mental qualities that the rest of us must manage without.

The third dimension is our own actions and choices, through which we can influence both our physical and mental health. We can promote physical health by exercising, losing weight, eating healthily, and avoiding intoxicants. Similarly, we can make conscious choices for mental well-being: for example, by skipping discussion threads or social media channels that cause us anxiety. Understanding these three factors helps us towards better mental well-being.

Talking about mental health is often more difficult than talking about physical health. Shame is still associated with mental problems or illnesses. For example, discussing the use of mood medication can be difficult. The situation is different with physical health: if one has diabetes, for instance, there is hardly any shame associated with using insulin. It is also easier to say at work that I am going to the dentist in the afternoon than that I am going to therapy.

This forum has already hosted valuable discussions on improving mental well-being, in the coffee room section. For example, the effect of music on mental well-being has been discussed. And how to avoid looking at one’s portfolio on red days. We also have a discussion thread that addresses exercise, which promotes both physical and mental health. A human being is a whole, where mental and physical health go hand in hand – mental well-being affects physical health and vice versa.

The purpose of this thread is to share tips and experiences for improving mental well-being – whether they are small or large achievements. Have you managed to stay out of the politics thread? Have you been able to avoid checking your portfolio’s value when Hezulin collapsed? Perhaps you have found a new job that better supports your well-being? Have you found the right mental health medication? Have mindfulness exercises been helpful? Have you discovered a way to sleep better? Whether you have already found “the light” or are still searching for it, all experiences are welcome.

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Good start, thanks for that!

For me, maintaining mental well-being has become more important and timely in recent years because, for some reason, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve noticed that I’m not as social and open as I used to be. Nowadays, I’m even more introverted than before and, in a way, very uncertain in many situations. This proves, at least in my case, that a person changes as they age in one way or another, not just physically. Still, I consider these traits to be my strengths, yet I often seek out my discomfort zone so I don’t go completely soft in the head.

On the physical side, I take care of myself through things like a car-free lifestyle, healthy habits, and nutrient-rich food. As for recent changes, I gave up unnecessary sugar products 1.5 years ago for good (goodbye sweets, sodas, and ice cream), reduced my alcohol consumption by half, and on top of my everyday cycling, I spend all my weekends walking. These also give a boost to maintaining mental well-being when I stay healthy and at a normal weight.

One of the most important things for mental well-being for me is avoiding wrong life choices, decisions, and unnecessary stress, which I feel I’ve succeeded at excellently in recent years. Since occasional waves of anxiety have appeared in my life over the last few years (this runs in the family), which I fortunately already manage, I want to keep them to a minimum. I don’t know the direct cause of these feelings, as everything is well in my life, they just came, but you get used to everything. Richer for the experience, I know how and want to listen to my body, and I’ve learned to calm myself down quite effectively.

Social situations and overthinking various upcoming events or things trigger that pointless and toxic stress and occasional feelings of anxiety that set the mind racing, and through that, the body reacts in one way or another. The corrective measures for this process are a work in progress with the ‘mug’ staring back from the mirror cabinet—meaning I’m studying and learning how to calm my mind effectively and how to keep my mental well-being stable.

Returning to that most important way of maintaining mental well-being: I’ve known for half my life what I want from it, and through that, I’m well aware of what things to avoid and what to aim for. These have a huge impact on the mental side. For example, I know I don’t want a relationship or a family, so those won’t happen, meaning I’m skipping the ‘rush years’ entirely. I also know I’ll never need a car and not a cent will be spent on one; instead, that money goes toward investing, experiences, and pampering. Living life on my own terms is immensely important to me; the opinions of society or those close to me carry no weight—my own happiness comes first! And lo and behold, mental well-being likes it again!

Sleeping, aaahh, in that, if anything, I’m luckily still a master! I dream every night, sleep soundly, and my sleep rhythm stays stable, both on weekdays and during holidays. I’m never tired during the day, and I don’t dwell on things at night; I can reset my head effectively before bed. Mmm.

When it comes to mental fortitude and investing, I think I’ve grown a lot here. I don’t falter, and I only bend slightly, but without breaking. Here too, I know exactly what I want and I achieve it. I tolerate moderate risk (luckily I internalized my risk level early enough), and whereas before investing I might have dreaded a hundred euros being a lot of money to spend, now when investing, even a thousand doesn’t feel like such a big loss—so my perception of money has also undergone mental growth. Respect for money has grown, as has the understanding that money can be used for more than just consumption. It’s a great mental well-being booster too, knowing that the financial side of life is secure.

Reflections on mental well-being like these from Uncle Shinjuku.

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I would argue that all poor-quality political discussion is a drain on one’s mood, whether it takes place online or in real life. The more polarized the discussion becomes, the less often anyone’s opinion actually changes.

With strangers, it is a waste of time if neither party is able to meet halfway and use constructive arguments. If politics comes up too frequently with a colleague, acquaintance, or relative, I think it’s worth asking to change the subject. A close one or a good friend is a more difficult case. In those situations, I would ask “why do you think that way?” and truly listen to the answer. Even if you are factually right about something, you are more likely to achieve a peaceful coexistence in the long run through empathy than by simply laying out the facts.

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That’s exactly right. I personally don’t take a stand here on the forum regarding things like politics, the US presidential elections, or ongoing wars. I certainly have my own opinions on these matters, but writing them down wouldn’t provide any added value for the reader, or even for the writer. These subjects are also the kind where the less I trouble my head with them, the better—so there is indeed a connection to mental well-being there as well.

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I am by no means an expert on the things I’m writing about; I am writing about my personal feelings and experiences.

A significant amount of stress in my life has been reduced and my alertness increased by sports—specifically gym training. Sometimes, when life has been in a really tight spot mentally, the gym has given my one-track mind a moment of rest, getting the endorphins flowing and providing some much-needed human company, even if I don’t socialize for long periods during the workout. The gym has provided the energy to keep going and a sense of well-being for the long term.

Another important factor in my mental stamina and overall mood has been my diet. I don’t drink much alcohol, but if there is great sadness, I don’t drink at all. My diet keeps, for example, my blood sugar quite steady, and I still eat based on a diet plan from an excellent coach I once had, which I’ve since supplemented with things I’ve found helpful.

“I’m doing everything I can”—well, on second thought, no. I sleep too little; it’s probably true that my need for sleep is quite a bit lower than average, but even taking that into account, I still sleep and rest far too little.

I’ve mentioned my ADHD here; for me, it is “very strong.” The nurse, doctor, and psychiatrist didn’t have much life advice to give because they felt I was already trying to do everything I could in my daily life. Medication has been a big help in my life, but a much larger factor in managing it has been trying to do many things right so that I can live with it. Medication helps, of course, but if you haven’t done the things you can to make your life easier, then most of the work remains undone. I was diagnosed with a perceptual disorder (hahmotushäiriö), but I wasn’t aware of it or able to think about or explain things to myself and others. In some cases, a diagnosis can make life easier because you stop blaming yourself, and then maybe many people start finding ways to live with it. I feel it’s important to be aware of these things, but in a way, I’ve felt that I shouldn’t live too consciously of having hyperactivity and stop trying; instead, I try to live with it and maximize the benefits derived from it.

I still have plenty of work to do on trying to sleep more; I’ve improved, but there’s still more to be done. Also, reading professional literature and texts could give me more tools on how to function better, as well as how to think and process things. Listening to and helping people does me good too, or at least it gives me a lot and is meaningful—though obviously not in the sense of seeing another person’s severe anxiety—but some have warned me, quite rightly, not to burden myself too much with those things, especially when I’m not doing so well myself.

Humor and empathy are tools I use to get by, but I can influence things in my own life, and I haven’t done everything I could for myself yet. It’s funny to complain about fatigue in your forties if you sometimes go to bed at three and wake up at seven :smiley: , so get a grip, Mr. Investor Rookie! :smiley:

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When it comes to sleeping, I’ve found it best to maintain a consistent sleep rhythm that doesn’t break even on vacation, and only out of necessity or circumstances on Midsummer’s Eve and New Year’s Eve—meaning just a couple of times a year. I consider the nighttime hours to be wasted time in life that I want to spend sleeping away, and it has worked perfectly. I’ve also molded myself into a morning person; 20 years ago I was more of an evening person and my sleep was out of rhythm all the time.

Nowadays, I sleep 7-8 hours on weekdays before work, meaning I go to bed early and wake up refreshed as soon as the alarm rings at 04:39; I’m already cycling to work by about 05:50. On weekends and vacations, I go to bed around 11 PM and sleep about 8-9 hours. When this repeats year-round and becomes a habit, sleep is sound and deep, I’m not tired during the day, and well-being in this regard is guaranteed.

Good luck with improving your sleep rhythm and maximizing your sleep enjoyment! :+1:

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Now I finally realized what caused the anxiety, dizziness, digestive problems, fatigue, brain fog, and difficulties in social situations that occurred randomly but weekly for a long time.

The reason was simply incorrect breathing technique. I realized that for some reason, I had been breathing shallowly for a long time, so my body wasn’t getting enough oxygen, my brain was operating as if in some safe mode, and my internal organs went into a disturbed state. As soon as I trained myself back to proper diaphragmatic breathing, all those ailments disappeared at once. I am now energetic, my brain is working again, the dizziness is gone, digestion is functioning normally again, my resting heart rate has stabilized, and generally, I feel normal and healthy again. Wow!

Dear forum members, remember to breathe correctly! It’s incredible how the diaphragm pampers internal organs and boosts lung function so that the body gets all the necessary oxygen. The overall effect, both mentally and physically, is enormous; I can now personally confirm that. Few doctors would even think to ask a patient first if they are breathing correctly, but everyone should definitely stop and pay attention to this first.

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There were some good posts on the topic in the coffee room a while ago. It’s a shame they’re there now, and I don’t remember what they presented. It would be nice to go back and look, but it’s always hard to find them there.

Yle also had a good opening on mental health and well-being in occupational health.

I’m surprised that the perspective of an AI therapist hasn’t been highlighted more strongly. My own experience with ChatGPT as a therapist has been very positive. I’m sure other LLMs do the exact same thing. And I’m not claiming it’s better than a real therapist, but the advantage is in availability. I’m very rarely interested in talking about mental challenges. If I had a fixed appointment with a therapist, I would then be forced to talk, whether I wanted to at that exact moment or not. Now, when I feel like I want help or to discuss something, I open the app on my phone and get a reasonably smart answer immediately.

I myself had been bothering my mind for a long time due to a perhaps unnecessary purchase. So, nothing serious, but a bit like a stone in my shoe that unnecessarily causes trouble and annoys my mind. ChatGPT’s answer was absolutely brilliant. And lo and behold, this source of annoyance was permanently put aside.

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Stop Letting the News Ruin Your Peace

A half-hour video about the harmfulness of news to mental well-being:

-They are usually bad and shocking
-They hardly affect your life
-You can’t do anything about the things being reported
-Basically the same year after year: Wars, natural disasters, accidents, economic collapses…

It’s easy to at least try what effect it has on your own state of mind.

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Cottaging. Is that green care? Lakeside sauna. Slow cooking, grilling, fishing. You inevitably get exercise when making firewood, carrying things to different places. In the countryside, you see different birds than in the city. You can gaze at live fire in several fire pits. You sleep well when you’ve been busy and outdoors all day. You sauna for a long time and eat a hearty evening meal. Alcohol has been completely left out, and I don’t miss it. Wonderful slow life, if one expresses it in such a trendy way.

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I forgot to add how I have managed to reduce Twitter’s unpleasant news feed and watching it. Twitter has a good stock aspect from which all my super picks have been found. Then there’s the awful side where you encounter the world’s unpleasantness. Phew. No one’s mind is made to withstand the weight of the whole world. Mental health +100% from this.

I have also read more books and traditional newspapers. Improvement also +100% from this.

Additionally, I have mental health medication. It doesn’t mean one couldn’t succeed in working life. Probably my mental health diagnosis is the reason why I have succeeded. The line between madness and genius is very fluid. I won’t elaborate further on my own situation, but here are some examples:

John Nash → Schizophrenia.

Kurt Gödel “suffered for much of his life from paranoid thoughts and depressive states. It was not easy for Gödel to understand that all truths were questionable, even truth itself.

Gödel was also convinced that someone wanted to poison him, and therefore he agreed to eat only those foods that his wife Adele Nimbursky prepared.” Kurt Gödel, elämäkerta miehestä, joka kysyi miksi - Mielen Ihmeet

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It’s interesting to note how little discussion this topic has generated, knowing how important it ultimately is. It actually says quite a lot about this era, where material things are emphasized and everything else is belittled.

I’m not religious in any way, nor am I deeply familiar with any religions or philosophies, but if something resonates with me, I could perhaps be a Buddhist. I would experience this more as a life lesson and philosophy than as an actual religion.

Juice already sang “life is dying” back in the day. I have no idea what he meant by that, but at some point, I associated it with the aforementioned philosophy, which advises accepting things as they are. Suffering is, in my opinion, the wrong word to describe this, but the path to spiritual well-being is to be content with less and to realize that my affairs are ultimately quite good. Envy, dopamine-fueled purchases, etc., certainly don’t bring that spiritual satisfaction.

I’m not the handsomest gentleman, I don’t have the biggest portfolio on the forum, I don’t earn particularly well from my job, I don’t have an amazing education, no remarkable status, I drive an old car, I wear thrift store clothes (add anything here), but none of that matters. I go to work sometimes and listen to people complain about all sorts of trivial things and quietly smile to myself. Life has indeed been smiling for quite some time, despite everything that has happened.

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If you have the resources, I recommend studying. I’ve been taking courses at an open university for quite some time as a hobby, without the compulsive, goal-oriented pursuit of a degree. So to speak, “for the love of the game.”

I find it important to challenge the bowling ball wobbling between my shoulders with knowledge unrelated to work matters. In my case, that means humanities.

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I have managed to replace social media sessions with reading books. E-library books are now the top choice when eating, traveling, on the toilet, etc. I read Konstig’s novel about arms caching and a non-fiction book about the Finnish language. Of course, it’s nicer to read a traditional book, but you often can’t be bothered to lug them around. I did read one traditional 800-page brick in the autumn, and in addition, I finished Sinuhe. My mental health thanks me when I read books. I haven’t looked at my portfolio in a week, and it hasn’t even been difficult. On Friday at lunch, someone mumbled something about some rare earth commotion. I briefly considered buying out loud, but I heard that prices had risen all week, so I couldn’t be bothered to open my portfolio as everything would be too expensive anyway. Social media, news, politics, and perhaps even excessive stock market monitoring weaken mental health \[1\]

\[1\] Unknown, Inders discussion forum, 12.10.2025

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Core question: what is spiritual? How is it, so to speak, operationalized? Would “mental health” be a better term?

ChatGPT’s offering:

Mental health refers to the entirety of the mind’s functioning: thoughts, emotions, behavior, and the ability to cope with life’s pressures. It relates to how the brain and mind function in everyday situations. Mental health is, as it were, the “physiology” of the mind. For example, depression, anxiety disorders, and sleep disorders fall within the scope of mental health.

Spiritual health, on the other hand, refers to a broader and often more subjective experience of life’s meaningfulness, values, and identity. It concerns how a person experiences themselves, their purpose, and their connection to others — sometimes also their connection to something greater (nature, community, divinity, or even science).

One could think of it this way: Mental health: How the mind functions. Spiritual health: How the mind experiences and understands existence.

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Mind’s personal trainers.

‘Laavu’s coaching model is based on cognitive, humanistic, and solution-focused psychology, but it combines with business coaching traditions in such a way that coaching always has a structured goal… coaching is not therapy, but it goes psychologically deeper than business coaching… we have gotten Finnish CEOs to talk about their feelings.’

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Good text. Occupational health services offer similar services, requiring a referral from a doctor, etc. At least Mehiläinen and Terveystalo also offer a broader range of services.

I’m using the word meditation, I don’t know if it’s correct in this context or if it broadly enough describes what I’m getting at, but the main thing is that you understand what kind of things I’m looking for. :slight_smile:

I’ve heard and read that many people meditate and contemplate, and have various calming moments, so here are some questions for people interested in mental well-being who practice meditation or similar:

  1. How often do you meditate and at what time of day?
  2. What is the reason you meditate?
  3. How do you meditate?
  4. What good “results” have you gained from meditating?
  5. I’ve received some tips to get started, and sometimes I’ve even tried some “calming moments” and haven’t had a negative impression from those experiences. So, if one wants to feel even a little better, for example due to stress and sorrows, where do you think one should start?

Thanks in advance to all respondents! :slight_smile:

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Psychological well-being (not spiritual) includes that meditation, or freely translated, ‘stopping in the present moment’. It’s worth familiarizing oneself with the Psychological Flexibility ‘concept’, which Arto Pietikäinen has commendably brought to Finland, and which is a set of individual psychological skills that anyone can learn and develop within themselves.

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Trying to give scattered thoughts as I can’t do more.

“Meditating and contemplating/reflecting.” Contemplation perhaps refers to thought tricks like “what does it sound like if one hand claps.” I don’t really practice these. Contemplation makes me think of something like “should I have a lion (beer) or kossu (vodka) on Friday?” I don’t like this term, it’s misleading.

When meditating, I try to remove unnecessary thoughts: “Is Putin attacking Finland?”, “Will Hyzon’s stock crash?”, blah blah blah, the mind certainly generates all sorts of useless junk in your head. The most effective way to get rid of these muddy thoughts is to focus on the body at first. I recommend starting with relaxation exercises where you lie on the floor or bed and relax your whole body, starting from your toes and ending with your face. I got into this myself 20 years ago at the Helsinki Ashtanga Yoga School. Facial relaxation at the end is a powerful climax for me, at least. But you can’t jump straight into it, you have to calm the body first.

Later, you can meditate even while walking to the coffee machine. Have you ever noticed how heavy the floor feels under your feet when you walk? Focus on your feet. The weight of your feet is confusing when you focus on it.

Another good way is to focus on all the “sensory information” you feel. I’m sitting in a chair, how does the chair feel against my backside? I’m typing on the keyboard, how do the keys feel against my fingers when I press them? Music is playing, I focus only on it. My back is a little sore, I’ve rolled a towel to support my lower back. The music stops, the tapping of the keyboard is clearer. It’s confusing that I don’t have to look at the keyboard and text appears on the screen. I don’t know the ten-finger system, but four fingers can do a lot.

A related term is “mindfulness,” which in Finnish is “tietoisuustaito.” Yikes, who invents these Finnish translations. Below are some very good exercises:

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