I don’t think this has been shared here yet:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Bt1IyRl1xgCGqRbkjFAZR?si=1LoxmL3zSkSoSdcrrvz-Fg
Highly recommended. Ali is potentially the retail investor who knows Evo best, and even though he is quite bullish in his view, the podcast focuses mostly on the risks.
Edit.
Adding the YouTube version as well, so the preview is visible.