It wasn’t inappropriate, but it doesn’t necessarily bring much added value either. You yourself (if that deleted message was yours) had asked a couple of messages earlier, where it already became clear that it’s coming tomorrow (i.e., today?). The location, however, remained unclear in this message at least:
Not everyone on this forum is screened with the same criteria. Perhaps someone else would have wanted to know the place and time of that interview.
Of course it was a reasonable question, and such a message should naturally not be moderated away. An essential question that clarifies how anyone interested in the company can watch the interview. Information that the person who first mentioned the interview should have provided without even being asked. An absolutely absurd comment from the moderator to demand “a little something else” for that.
(Yes, I’m replying to a 21-day-old message, but that was a clear moderation error.)
@Jukka_Lepikko Did you go flag it when I grilled you about hyping Tesla as an investment case?
IF the message contained nothing but Tesla, then I could have flagged it myself. What has sometimes been said/is said about Tesla does not, in my opinion, belong in the Plug thread (as it is a Plug thread and not a Tesla thread).
It may well be that I just don’t understand (as a simple investor) how the yes-no discussion about Tesla (Tesla bullishness) relates to Plug as an investment.
And if this message does not belong in the flagging thread and is flagged/moved,
I questioned in the coffee room the style of a fellow forum member painting an unflattering picture of other forum members and asked the moderators for reasons why this is allowed.
The message was flagged (and immediately removed) because it “went off-topic”.
If one cannot inquire about these guidelines in the coffee room, should it be done in the ‘investment forum rules’ thread?
Would my message have stayed on topic if I hadn’t included a question to the moderators, but instead just directly replied to the fellow forum member and told them what their communication looks like?
Hi,
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The target price is for the next 12 months, correct me if I'm wrong. If you don't take a stance on any probabilities of Bex succeeding in coming to market as a drug, and it's certainly not going to do that within the next 12 months, and you also don't take any stance on financing arrangements, then why on earth do you give a target price of €2.50? With that logic, the target price should be €0 without estimating the value of intellectual property rights (which is even more difficult), right? Many other analysts are around ten euros in their estimates.
Review the community guidelines if you want more information.
So how is it off-topic? Who flagged it and why? This should be one of the hottest topics, right?
If an analyst says that the most significant event at the moment is such that its probability and monetary value cannot be estimated, but their employer demands that a target price for a year ahead must be set and additionally a view must be given that must not be false, one is facing the impossible. Apparently, it cannot be challenged very strongly. I haven’t flagged it, but I recall some people previously getting nervous about similar things and hype is apparently a sin. Bearishness that doesn’t seem so sensible is apparently not a sin. According to those who don’t own shares.
Redeye and Carnegie have estimated MDS upfront payments and partnerships. Their target prices don’t differ much from Inderes either. One other [analyst/firm] seems to have a target price of 10 euros, but not many?
Surely, the analyst still gives some value to the deal, because the mcap is estimated to be over 250 MEUR in a year. Royalties have also been calculated in the extensive analysis, DCF…and now sales are no longer expected within 12 months. The only income would be the deal.
As I understand it, the analyst tries to minimize the amount of rage. Too low a price, not good. Too bullish and optimistic, if it goes wrong, eternal mockery on the forum (though only in a nightmare, in reality at most in a meme thread😀)
There can be good, bad, or neutral deals. If an analyst were to assume that a value-creating deal is made by default, there would have to be some special justification for this…?
An analyst is not a speculator who would take a view on what the market’s initial reaction to deal news is.
Now, @Maikki1, don’t take it personally, as the sweeping of messages into cyberspace probably wasn’t due to you. The thread started to be full of very mixed “stuff”/mush, and in such cases, it’s best to send everything to cyberspace at once. Several of my messages also disappeared, but I’m not sorry about it at all. ![]()
You have good thoughts about Faron, I really subscribe to all of them now. Everyone should have the opportunity to present their own thoughts, but it’s not possible on Inderes. That’s why many things are discussed among different people elsewhere. Even with Faron, quite a few things should be discussed where all the listeners are. But whatever, everyone makes their own decisions, and if opinions start to be manipulated, then it’s going to go to hell. Thanks for the message. ![]()
Completely ridiculous victim playing.
I myself have flagged off-topic messages from Faron’s thread because they drown out useful information with ego-stroking, insulting individual posters, insulting analysts, and other completely useless rubbish.
Read the rules, as you are advised to do when moderation occurs, and read your messages through at least three times before posting.
Labeling legitimate flags and subsequent moderation as a mystical denial of opinions is populist distortion of truth and victim playing normalized by Trump and the Finns Party, which has no place in a civilized discussion culture.
Your deleted messages are simply not content that provides added value to thousands of readers, and gracefully swallowing that truth would be a terribly useful lesson to learn as soon as possible.
You have not received a single ban for those reasons. In that thread, there are plenty of quality messages that do not share optimism and criticize Europe’s actions as insufficient, and no one is banned for such reasons. After several bans, you should really think about the actual reasons for the suspensions, or the same pattern will repeat indefinitely.
