Here I have to rely on older employees. 
Could, for example, @Marianne_Palmu comment on the above?
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Isn’t Inderes an acronym for “Independent ? research” (I don’t remember what word is in place of the question mark, maybe security?), the last word’s inflection of research shortens to resin?
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Yes, but abbreviations are usually inflected according to the pronunciation of the abbreviation’s linguistic form.
For example, Kela is less informally the Social Insurance Institution (Kansaneläkelaitos). I would go to Kansaneläkelaitos (the Social Insurance Institution) but to Kela. In one, a vowel, in the other, -kse. “Kelakseen” (to its Kela) I hope no one would say.
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Similarly, something “now costs twice as much.” Usually, it refers to doubling the price, even though the wording means tripling it. “Twice as much” is different from “twice more.”
I myself used an incorrect phrasing for a long time when referring to the upcoming week. If on Monday I was talking about Thursday, I meant that week, but with “next Thursday,” in my head, I meant Thursday of the following week. This naturally caused confusion 
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Heh heh, I haven’t really thought about how to inflect the word Inderes before, but “Inderesin” is the established form for us. I would guess it comes from the phrase “Independent research,” which Inderes is an abbreviation of. In language maintenance, the stance seems to be that if there are two ways to inflect a name, one can take into account the owner’s own way, but it is by no means the only correct way. So, the rich Finnish language offers many forms for this
This is a great thread, by the way; let’s cherish beautiful Finnish!
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It is considerate, of course, to respect the wishes of the party concerned.
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I don’t know if this is nitpicking, my own misunderstanding, or what, but you often hear people talk about a comparison of X times smaller/less than Y. What does that mean and what is it based on? If person A has €100 in their pocket and person B has five times less, does B’s pocket contain creditors looking for their receivables, or is it 1/5 of €100? In this context, a fraction would work, but if it were six times less, we would have to resort to an approximation when looking for a ratio, right? So, is there a clear definition for such a comparison, or does it fall into the same category as, for example, the term “all-time,” where the concept only has an indicative meaning and is intended to emphasize the significance of a certain matter?
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Some people get some strange satisfaction out of this nitpicking. A friend of mine used to work as a journalist, and retirees would constantly send messages about how this or that word should have been inflected.
My own writing skills aren’t great, and never have been. Both my body and my writing suffer from a foolish mind.
Generally, I can say that the language use of young people is immensely irritating. Especially the use of foreign words sprinkled between sentences. This is particularly noticeable in investment-related vocabulary, but many terms just don’t seem to have a domestic equivalent.
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As I understand it, the matter cannot be expressed that way in the given example. If a positive number is multiplied by a number greater than one, it increases, not decreases.
A sum five times €100 is €500, so if the reference person physically has €100 in their pocket, the other person cannot have -€400 in their pocket. But they can have 80% or four-fifths less money in their pocket, or one-fifth of what the reference person had.
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An excellent thread!
The use of English phrases mixed into Finnish text bothers me. It’s like yawning against the wind. Instead, Finnish idioms fit the text like a glove and lighten it up nicely.
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I looked it up on Google, exceptionally, and it said the following…
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A quick search showed that this is widely used to describe the bilateral ratio, but it can be assumed that when a title contains such a comparison, it does not refer to very precise or significant quantities, sums, etc.
Kolumniaarrearkku - Kotus writes similarly
Someone might think that now the tail wags the dog, and not the dog its tail Perhaps it’s good that these conventions established in spoken language are “accepted”. Still, I support the concluding remark:
"Expressions where the compared item is smaller than the comparison object are more difficult to grasp than those comparing a larger item to a smaller one. Even “twice as little” is no easier to interpret than “two times less”. It is clearer to use other types of expressions: “my current commute is half of what it used to be”, “only half as much new detergent is needed compared to before”. “Half as much less” is also easily understood: “Tomorrow I will drink half as much coffee less than today.”
This is what I try to favor.
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It annoys me when the letter ‘q’ is mispronounced. In Finnish, it’s pronounced “kuu,” not “guu.”
For example, Oksaharju has said “guutee” (Qt).
I wonder if it’s because ‘q’ and ‘g’ are both foreign consonants and look somewhat similar in shape? Still, I find it strange that someone can’t get that right.
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This bothers me too. Established English terms are okay, but the unnecessary use of new ones really stands out. For example, from one thread, “carryta,” which just made a medium-sized blood vessel burst in my head
“X and Y will definitely carry the portfolio today with both hands.”
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Keuruu, that former city of pioneers. The Kaleton depot became familiar, so the group headed towards Kaleton. I haven’t thought about it any further, but it seems to inflect in the same way as rahaton (moneyless).
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It’s someone who doesn’t have a kale/kalea.
So he is kaleton (without kale). And his path is the kaleton’s path or whatever. Like Kaleton Lake.
Rahaton (Moneyless) Rahattomantie (Moneyless Road).
Velaton (Debt-free) Velattomantie (Debt-free Road)
Akaton (Wifeless) Akattomantie (Wifeless Road)
Etc.
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I’ve never pronounced q with a k sound, not even in elementary school 
Oh well. I’m off to Quebec to watch some hockey.
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The only connection where Q appeared during my elementary school years was Dingo’s Drummer Keijo Q, or Quuppa 
In that case, they’re trying to say a foreign letter in a foreign way: if it looks strange, it must be pronounced strangely.
Similarly, I’ve heard “piano” pronounced as “pieno”. Apparently, some people have been reprimanded for pronouncing “hieno” (fine) as “hiano” and subconsciously fear pronouncing “piano” “wrong” as well
edit: hypercorrection seems to be the term for this
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You can notice a similar style when some people try to pronounce foreign words even fancier than necessary. For example, bubi, bointti, abligaatio, allogaatio, etc. K’s and G’s, as well as B’s and P’s get mixed up when a Finn’s consciousness immediately overshoots when dealing with a foreign word
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