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[quote="Pertti2, post:2813, topic:14314"]\nWelltus/Nightingale Japan\n[/quote]\nThe link you posted is likely at least four years old, from the time when they were targeting consumers directly in Japan.

Now they are taking a fresh start, with the launch of the MyNightingale+ test coming this spring, and a new marketing director was even hired last month.

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By reading the text, you can see that the blood test is taken in connection with a normal health check-up, not intended “directly for consumers”, nor taken by the person themselves.

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Not a completely worthless test! You get to know your fatty acid balance and inflammation score :joy:

Well, look at that. Quite a few entities see the benefits in this test, since they’ve adopted it. And even though a large portion of people don’t care about their own health, there are those who want as much measurable data about it as possible, and who also change their behavior based on that data. This (too) isn’t a tool for lazy people, but for some, it’s a pretty good way to try and live a healthier life. The further you want to advance your health and functional capacity, the more willing you are to benefit from all available information and even pay for it. I wouldn’t scoff too much.

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Tell me, how do you adjust your usage according to the fatty acid balance? Or the inflammation score? The concept of health might now be expanding just a little bit beyond traditional Western school medicine. There are many entities, and the Japanese conception of health can differ from the Western one. However, I wouldn’t cry over it now, and business is business.

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The report also includes a set of recommendations for action, which can also be found as an example on that Japanese website. Just click through and it will become clear what can be achieved with such a test. Or then again, it might not become clear, but you can’t blame the test or the algorithm for that.

My opinion: those are currently measuring things that you can’t really influence, and by influencing them, you can’t affect the end result (e.g., risk of a heart attack). These metrics lean a bit towards entertainment.

Still, it’s good if someone quits smoking, for example.

That was my opinion, and I won’t continue the discussion on the subject, and I understand what I read well enough without any innuendo.

I’m not saying that would necessarily actually happen, but the answer to your question is, in itself, obvious: diet and exercise.

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It probably matters how these are brought to the market. It’s a bit like Oura, how much do those metrics actually help?

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I can’t help myself, though. Hypothetical examples:

  1. Man A measures his NG and gets a high inflammation score. He starts exercising more and, after two weeks, goes to Normal and takes a new NG measurement right next to it. The inflammation score hasn’t changed at all, so he thinks that exercising is of no use to him, as his individual inflammation curve shows just that, and he quits jogging, not bothering anymore.

  2. Man B measures his NG and notices an unbalanced fatty acid ratio. He starts following an unhealthy miracle diet and re-measures his fatty acid ratio, which has changed. The food authority (=wife) is satisfied and he continues the diet, and the man is happy.

Those are what I meant by pseudo-metrics—meaning things are measured that may not matter, or whose change at least doesn’t matter to the end result. Anyone can do whatever they want if they pay for it themselves. Fatty acid balances and inflammation scores aren’t very smart things if the goal is public healthcare.

Could Nightingale benefit from Terveystalo’s acquisition of Solo Health?

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