L'Oreal - global cosmetics giant

Let’s open a thread about the cosmetics giant L’Oréal.

This French company was founded in 1909 and is currently the world’s largest cosmetics company. The company has numerous cosmetic brands in its product portfolio. Business is divided into six categories:

  • Skincare and sun protection 40%
  • Makeup 21%
  • Haircare 15%
  • Hair coloring 11%
  • Fragrances 9%
  • Other 4%

Sales are geographically distributed as follows:

  • Asia 35%
  • Western Europe 27%
  • North America 25%
  • Other 13%

The year 2020 was difficult for the company – as people did not move outside the home as much, the demand for cosmetic products weakened. Generally speaking, however, the company is financially strong, practically debt-free, and profitable (profit margin 13%, ROE 12%). The company’s financial data:

  • Share price €400.00
  • Market capitalization €219 billion
  • Revenue €28 billion
  • P/E 55 (for realized earnings)
  • Dividend €4.00 (payout ratio 55%)
  • Largest owners: Bettencourt family 33%, Nestlé 23%, otherwise diversified

Miscellaneous thoughts about the company:

  • The company is a long-standing, globally operating market leader
  • Originally a family company, and the family still owns just under a third of the company (a visible owner is a plus, but it also has its downsides)
  • Brands are strong, though there are a lot of them, which requires good brand management
  • Profitability is at a quite reasonable level despite the coronavirus, performed better than the cosmetics market during the coronavirus
  • Valuation level is quite high based on realized earnings; the market is already pricing in market normalization

An interesting consumer product company with strong brands and market leadership. The growth trend was interrupted by the coronavirus, but during the coronavirus, the company was able to maintain its position / gain ground in the cosmetics market. It develops new things, e.g., digital assistance for cosmetic selection and a more environmentally friendly product range. This company is currently on my mind.

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Here’s the brand portfolio; some of these brands are surely familiar to many:

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What made you interested in the company right now, at its current valuation? I’m wondering what kind of return expectation or safety margin you see in L’Oréal: P/E ~50, dividend yield 1%? A Finnish investor must also consider French withholding tax on that dividend yield and prepare to claim their dues (I don’t even know if it’s possible).

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When reading this table, it’s worth remembering that many of these are licensed brands and only in a cosmetic context. L’Oreal does not, for the most part, own those Luxe segment companies, nor does it have anything to do with their clothing or interior design products, for example.

Edit: I am not downplaying the importance of licensing agreements. The portfolio is impressive. There is just a risk of misunderstanding if one looks at that list with an investment mindset.

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Thanks @xlat for starting the thread! I’ve owned a few shares a couple of times. Currently, I don’t have any. What’s great about L’Oréal is its continuous, steady appreciation in value. The dividend yield is indeed modest at first.
I did receive the dividends nicely in my account from France.

Dividends come with a 25% withholding tax. To get it back, the investor would have to actively reclaim it: Ulkomaisten osinkojen verotus vaatii aktiivisuutta sijoittajalta - Viisas raha

This further weakens the expected return. Maybe someone is motivated to reclaim them. I personally wouldn’t bother and therefore keep my hands off dividend stocks from these countries :woman_shrugging:

Steady-growing consumer businesses have started to interest me; they have their own advantages. I’m specifically looking for strong market leaders that are well-managed and can deliver good, growing results here and now, plus have a track record of profitable growth.

It’s worth noting that the pandemic interrupted a good period of earnings growth (2016-2019 growth of approximately 20%); the company’s “normal” earnings level and growth are actually higher than what was realized. The company seems high-quality and interesting, plus it’s in good financial shape. The valuation is admittedly high, with a forward P/E in the range of 40, which is quite high even for a quality company. If the company can return to its growth trajectory and succeed in its development projects, there’s potential for decent earnings growth here. Even in a “normal scenario,” growth is steady, and profitability is at a good level.

The global cosmetics market has grown very steadily at an annual rate of 4-5%. This stability brings consistency to the industry and allows for investments in business development, as there are hardly any problems caused by cyclicity. The pandemic is a major exception to this, as it hit the entire industry hard.

This is currently under consideration; I bought a small position to get a feel for it, so to speak. I’m not in any particular hurry; I’m observing and thinking calmly about what I’ll do. So, this discussion opener should not be interpreted as any kind of buy recommendation. Instead, I opened this thread to bring information about an interesting company to the forum and to hear others’ experiences and views. Thanks for the comments so far and for those to come!

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It was wonderful to find L’Oréal’s initiation here. Thank you for that! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

I strongly believe that as the world reopens, luxury brands, in particular, will increase their sales.

During the pandemic, parties have been missed, and people have saved money. It’s time to invest. We’ve seen indications of this, for example, in this earnings season, where the earnings growth of retail stocks has been inconsistent. For example, Stockmann, which focuses on women, increased its earnings.

L’Oréal reported an 18.0% increase in earnings compared to the reference period. While the reference period wasn’t particularly strong, growth was also achieved (+9.3%) compared to pre-pandemic Q3 2019.

I assume that many on this forum are not familiar with L’Oréal’s brands and market position as such. I could elaborate on this a bit. Why? To help understand why I believe we can see growth, for example, over a year-long period.

Firstly, typically, products from all divisions include skincare and cleansing products, makeup, hair cleansing, treatment, and coloring products.

While I mainly talk about women, there are, of course, products for men too. Women are just the biggest consumers, at least for now.

Previously, products from a specific division were found targeted at certain points of sale, but I have noticed that it seems to be the norm now that products from all divisions are sold mixed together. In other words, you can find everything in supermarkets today. But to clarify the typical potential buyer, I’ll go through the old sales channels.

L’Oréal Luxe

All the L’Oréal Teams around the world are committed to create the best of Conscious Luxury

L’Oréal Luxe products include brands that are branded as products worth paying more for. Perfumes, for example, remain usable longer compared to consumer products due to the raw materials used and the history associated with perfumes. Biotherm’s facial cleansers are said to keep the skin younger for longer. Yves Saint Laurent eyeshadows are said to contain more color pigment. IT Cosmetics, because you only have one skin.

Luxe products are therefore for those moments when you want to treat yourself, pamper a loved one, or yourself. Typical places to buy Luxe products are specialized cosmetic stores like Kicks, Stockmann, or ship or airport stores.

Parties and travel increase the demand for Luxe products in the form of souvenirs.

Sales increased by 25.4%, and compared to Q3 2019, growth was as high as 13.3%. Was there pent-up demand visible in Q3, or were they stealing a competitor’s market share? I don’t know. Time will tell.

L’Oréal Consumer Products


Because, we are all worth it.

As long as I can remember, L’Oréal’s consumer products have encouraged women who consider themselves ordinary to take care of themselves. Consumer products are for everyday makeup, and when you don’t feel the need to pay extra for your makeup. “Value investor’s makeup.”

Many of us also have a small artist inside, and the affordable price also encourages us to try new things ourselves. Supermarket hair dyes are perfect for satisfying a hair coloring addiction.

Typically, the makeup and skincare products located near the entrance of supermarkets trigger my shopping urge. If I don’t deliberately avoid the aisle, I easily pick up something. I don’t think I’m the only one.

I took a longer look at the list of brands for once, and it’s quite surprising how large a portion of my local supermarket’s cosmetics section they fill. I should check it Lynch-style, but off the cuff, it might very well approach half.

Sales increased by +5.2% and exceeded the 2019 reference period. This division therefore saw the most moderate increase.

L’Oréal Professional Products


Hairdressing is an art form. We won’t mass produce hairstyles. Hairdressers, their expertise, will always play a role. L’Oréal is entirely at their service.

Products from the Professional division were previously typically sold in hair salons and at wholesale suppliers for hair salons. Hairdressing students are subtly brainwashed during their studies about the excellence of certain brands’ product development, and L’Oréal’s products are increasingly seen as industry leaders. Company representatives visit schools during studies to talk about the products and their chemistry. The products are used for practicing coloring on others and are favored in everyday life. Upon graduation, students pass on this knowledge to their clients, and as industry professionals, their information is trusted.

Previously, hairdressers tried to sell their customers products that could not be obtained elsewhere, but I believe this has changed. First, professional hair care products began appearing, for example, at Stockmann. Stockmann was allowed to sell the products because a hair salon operated on its premises. When, for example, Tigi (not a L’Oréal product) first put its products on sale in supermarkets, many hair salons removed Tigi from their selection. Nowadays, it’s a pleasure to see that L’Oréal’s Professional products like Redken and L’Oréal in Paris are actively used by hairdressers and found on supermarket shelves.

In Q3 2021, sales grew by 22.5% compared to Q3 2019.

L’Oréal Active Cosmetics Division


Adding Health to Beauty

Many women are not particularly keen on using chemicals for beauty care and are cautious about them. There are also many women who have allergies or particularly dry or atopic skin and cannot use ordinary products.

Active Cosmetics is probably the only division whose products I’m not very familiar with. For a long time, they were mainly found on pharmacy shelves. Now I’ve spotted them everywhere else, and in some stores, they are categorized under natural cosmetics. I don’t know if it’s just what the papers are writing or if young people are interested in natural cosmetics? For a thirty-something like me, natural cosmetics mean The Body Shop, but is there room for growth here? The Body Shop’s products are ridiculously expensive. To be honest, the color palette of these products doesn’t necessarily suggest that they will become lasting favorites among young people, at least not yet. Perhaps a new brand could emerge here, as the company has expertise.

The division saw growth of 34.5%, and the Q3 results stated that growth was continuing.

On September 20, Henkel, L’Oréal, LVMH, Natura &Co, and Unilever announced their intentions to develop a scoring system that allows consumers to compare the environmental impact of products. By being able to create the scoring system themselves, there is usually a good opportunity to make it favorable for themselves.

The reason I wanted to go through these different product portfolios is because of what I intuitively feel and consider fairly obvious:

As the world gradually reopens, people have saved money and are most likely to spend it on celebrations and investing in themselves. Taking care of oneself. The need for various products will gradually increase as people meet others outside the home more often. Hairdresser visits will no longer be delayed, days without makeup will decrease, and globally, various celebrations are approaching.

L’Oréal states that during the pandemic, it invested in social media visibility to attract young people to its brands. As travel increases, many people will pick up souvenirs. It will be interesting to see how growth develops. Will it develop steadily?

There’s also an opportunity to gain market share from competitors.

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The cosmetics industry is a constantly growing sector; the COVID-19 pandemic is probably the only exception when demand faltered. The industry is interesting in that the demand for its products grows even during economically weak times. Although luxury cosmetics are expensive, compared to other luxury products, they are cheap, and during economically difficult times, they can still provide a sense of well-being.

Cosmetics are also unique in that brand significance is truly immense. Products cannot be patented in terms of composition and are, in themselves, reproducible (copiable) without intellectual property protection. One could argue that of individual industries, cosmetics are the most brand-dependent.

The cosmetics industry is globally dominated by seven conglomerates, which own over 180 leading cosmetic brands. After the thirteen largest, only remnants of the global market remain for others, although even in those remnants, one can conduct very large and profitable business.

In recent years, considering the size of the market, small players, but quite nice when measured by company value, have emerged as social media-based marketing specialized cosmetic brands such as Kylie Cosmetics and Fenty. These giants have not yet been able to fully respond to a similar mode of operation.

If there is interest, I can ask my daughter, who is studying the field at university, for sources and examples related to this.

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A good package for those interested in L’Oreal :point_up:

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Revenue growth was slow in the second quarter because China was weaker than expected. However, the company already warned in June that growth in the cosmetics market would slow down. The dermatology business was a particular disappointment.

https://x.com/Quality_stocksA/status/1818336368881263019

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L’Oreal, is anyone following this? :slight_smile:

https://x.com/Le_Biais_Fi/status/1879393082095149220
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I tried to translate those minuses and pluses with Google’s program (the other parts you can guess, even though they are in French :upside_down_face:):
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Here is some information about L’Oreal’s Q4 results. :slight_smile:

https://x.com/European_DGI/status/1887592308998045868

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This tweet had good insights related to this company and its results. :slight_smile:

https://x.com/Quality_stocksA/status/1887565975979237713

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EDIT:

The following news related to this company came across.

L’Oréal plans to reduce its dependence on the Chinese market and focus on the United States, which it sees as a great opportunity. China’s economic challenges have weakened sales, and the company’s North Asia results fell by 3.6 percent, but then again, the wealth of U.S. consumers and “multicultural beauty needs” offer growth potential.

Japan’s economy grew for the third consecutive quarter in the last quarter of 2024, despite a weakening in private consumption. Growth was driven by strong corporate investment. The Bank of Japan raised interest rates, and economic developments will influence future decisions. Declining real wages weaken consumption, but investments are expected to continue.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/07/loreal-looks-to-us-land-of-opportunity-as-china-disappoints.html

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According to the article below, L’Oréal’s CEO is not concerned about potential US tariffs because most sales happen “locally”.

The company continues its growth in Europe and seeks new markets, for example, through innovations. Demand in China has weakened, but long-term prospects remain positive.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/11/loreal-ceo-plays-down-the-impact-of-us-tariffs-says-hes-not-overly-concerned.html

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L’Oréal’s Q1 results show that the company’s business foundation is strong, and also how agile the company is, considering the difficult global situation.

All business areas grew organically, and L’Oréal Luxe and Consumer Products, in particular, exceeded expectations. The company’s operations developed well in Europe and apparently also in emerging markets, while North America did not perform quite as well.

China still faces challenges, but the company has adapted well (given the circumstances) and is reportedly preparing for faster growth in the second half of the year through innovations and localization of operations.

Management maintained its cautious but positive guidance, and L’Oréal is seen to be in a strong position going forward. I don’t know how the company usually provides guidance, whether it’s particularly optimistic or something similar.

https://x.com/Quality_stocksA/status/1913116253389996513

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The company’s own materials:

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L’Oréal’s sales grew slightly in the third quarter, but the result still fell short of analysts’ expectations. The company reported broad growth across different regions, especially in the United States and China, despite recent market uncertainties.

Luxury beauty products in China once again drove an increase, but North American sales in this segment remained sluggish. L’Oréal is trying to accelerate growth with new acquisitions, such as Gucci’s beauty business and several skincare and haircare brands.

https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/1980665891319869704


Company’s own materials


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The result and the management’s unclear explanations were a clear disappointment to the market this time. The market, on the other hand, rewarded the large Kering deal with a share price increase. I think it looks like a good deal considering the seller’s weak negotiating position and L’Oreal’s history of growing fashion brands in the cosmetics sector (especially YSL). I don’t know much about Creed other than that it used to be a big name in niche+luxury perfumes. Apparently, the brand is no longer in such a good state today. Bottega Veneta, Balenciaga, and Gucci licenses probably form a larger part of the deal’s value (50 years is a very long time), if the royalty terms are even reasonable. Bottega Veneta was ninth in the last Lyst Index, and Balenciaga has also risen to 13th place despite controversies. Gucci, on the other hand, is still at rock bottom, which for a brand of Gucci’s size means 18th place. (:D) I think it’s good that the Gucci license only transfers in 2028 (excluding the time value of money), as it gives Kering time to build a new rise for the brand now that leadership and strategy have been shaken up. There is immense potential in these brands, considering that Gucci and Balenciaga were guaranteed top 3 material in Lysts for years, and Bottega has been in the top ten in recent years. Now L’Oreal just has to show that they still have the expansion of fashion brands into cosmetics under control. With the deal, L’Oreal’s stable also includes the last Lyst’s positions 1, 3, 4, 9, 13, 14, and 18.

Another interesting piece of news was the opening of Giorgio Armani’s will, which revealed that 15% of Armani Group (and more in the longer term) must be sold within the next 12-18 months. L’Oreal, LVMH, and EssilorLuxottica were marked as preferred buyers. L’Oreal has naturally expressed interest, and now we await a solution. I came up with 5 realistic solutions, which I listed below from best to worst from L’Oreal’s perspective.

  1. L’Oreal buys Armani’s cosmetics licenses for itself (could be, for example, a deal with everyone, i.e., cosmetics for L’Oreal, eyewear for EssilorLuxottica, and clothing for LVMH)
  2. A joint deal between L’Oreal and EssilorLuxottica, where L’Oreal keeps makeup, EL keeps eyewear, and the clothing side is licensed to someone else
  3. L’Oreal buys 15% (and later more) of Armani and licenses everything except makeup to others
  4. EssilorLuxottica buys 15% of Armani
  5. LVMH buys 15% of Armani

The last two are in that order because LVMH would probably want to keep Armani’s cosmetics license for itself after L’Oreal’s license expires (2050). EL would probably continue its effective cooperation with L’Oreal. Simplified, then: L’Oreal buys cosmetics licenses for itself > The current royalty and licensing system continues > L’Oreal’s cosmetics license expires and is not renewed, but L’Oreal also manages and owns only makeup > L’Oreal licenses everything else except makeup to others > L’Oreal tries to manage fashion and “bleh” businesses itself. Cosmetics and fashion are ultimately very different businesses, and I don’t see the sense in expanding outside core competencies in the current environment of intensifying competition.

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