Kamux - Hunting for profitability improvement (Part 2)

Rauli’s company report from 26.2.2026 included this. :slight_smile:

If he provides an updated estimate on this, he’ll likely do so around the time the preview comment is published or slightly after (the preview comment isn’t broken down this precisely, of course). The preview comment should appear shortly before 12.5.2026, when the company reports its Q1 results. :slight_smile:

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The price difference between Finland and Germany is negligible at the moment; only relatively new electric vehicles and hybrids are worth importing, others are not. For other cases, importing is based more on the fact that the selection in Finland is poor and, for example, features have been skimped on; if a customer is willing to pay for those, then importing may make sense…

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So what exactly counts as a negligible price difference and what counts as “relatively new”? For 10-year-old Lexuses, at least, there seems to be enough of a price difference and selection on the European side that, in my opinion, it still very much justifies importing one :thinking:

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If we were to do a fair comparison and compare cars of the same body style, for instance, and include a second set of tires and wheels, import costs, and taxes in the import price, the margin remains quite thin on those as well. And are you saying those weren’t hybrids :wink:

Italian imports have a lower resale value than, for example, those imported from Germany…

And the Italian car prices are missing VAT.

Maybe those import matters should be left to someone with experience…

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April was quite okay in the used car market in Finland, totaling €52,675

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And there’s the old body style as a German comparison, which easily has a €5k difference, and the Italian version as mentioned above.

Behind a paywall unfortunately, but if the headline holds true in practice, there are grim times ahead for Kamux and other used car dealers. The new reality will likely become clear over the next 12 months. This matter has already been noted above in the thread, but I’m raising it again as the impact could be very significant.

Who will buy high-margin Kamux Plus in the future if customers assume that faults will be repaired for free anyway? And since used cars will continue to have defects, even previously easy-going customers will start complaining twice as much and disputing sales. It won’t be a treat to be an employee at Kamux or a CFO trying to protect the company’s cash flow when repair bills start piling up on the desk more than before. Costs will increase, that is almost certain. Whether they come up with ways to reduce the cost burden now or later remains to be seen.

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The point here, however, is that while the rules are changing, they remain the same for everyone. The clearer the rules are, the easier it is to operate according to them. In practice, this means that car dealerships will know their responsibilities more precisely and can better price their risks accordingly. For cars with few defects, pricing won’t change. For riskier cars, trade-in values will decrease and target margins will be increased. All of this is paid for once by the dealership through the value of their inventory, and from then on, by the consumer.

Consumers can, of course, shift toward doing more peer-to-peer business, avoiding paying the dealership for the liability coverage. Even today, market prices are very close or even identical regardless of whether the seller is a private individual or a business. Up until now, businesses have had liabilities while consumers have not. This will likely continue to be the case even as dealerships take on more responsibility. So, the question is whether it will be more attractive to buy from a dealership or a private individual in the future.

I would add that the car trade will not end or fall into distress due to any single change. Think about the industry and all the possible changes that have occurred, say, over the last 50 years. All possible variables in legislation, taxation, power sources, etc., affect the value of the current inventory at that moment. This means that if the cash flow is dry, a single variable can lead a specific dealership to bankruptcy. If there is cash in the bank, the inventory is cycled through under the new rules and business continues. The industry has had a difficult or very difficult time since the start of COVID because so many changes have occurred in such a short period. However, the industry has not disappeared and will not end. What affects the industry most is the total volume of car transactions per year. With an empty till, a shrinking market, and a shift in power sources or legislation on top of that, you’re finished. In the same situation with a large cash reserve, you just roll over the inventory and get back to work.

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It seems like a real socialist has taken the helm at the Consumer Disputes Board.

They think they are some sort of legislators, or at the very least, they are making extremely strong interpretations of the law. In my opinion, their justifications wouldn’t hold much water in a court of law.

I wonder why the automotive industry hasn’t mounted a stronger resistance.

I wrote about this in a certain media outlet:

The Consumer Disputes Board (Kril) has, in recent automotive cases, started applying a new line in its decisions regarding the seller’s obligation to bring a product into conformity with the contract without the customer contributing to the costs. This is based on aforementioned EU Court of Justice rulings where a more recent judgment concerned the repair of a used tent purchased via distance selling (which did not meet the agreed specifications at the time of delivery), the rescission of the sale, or the replacement of the product, and an older one concerned mail order.

Could an expert explain how such a case can be used as a basis for, say, these Kril decisions where no form of distance selling was involved?

Is it possible to take a single point out of a specific judgment and apply it to any case whatsoever?

Decisions used in the justifications of the judgments:

JUDGMENT OF THE COURT OF JUSTICE In Case C‑52/18, paragraph 34

34 As regards, first, the condition that the goods must be brought into conformity ‘free of charge’, which means that the seller cannot make any financial claim in connection with the performance of that obligation — whether that obligation is performed by repair or by replacement of the non-conforming goods — and which is intended to protect consumers from the risk of financial burdens which, in the absence of such protection, might discourage them from asserting their rights

(see, to that effect, judgment of 17 April 2008, Quelle, C‑404/06, EU:C:2008:231, paragraph 34),

it must be stated that that condition cannot depend on the place where the goods purchased under a distance contract must be made available to the seller for the purpose of being brought into conformity.

Corresponding case C-404/06, paragraph 34

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/FI/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:62006CC0404

“34 The seller’s obligation to bring the goods into conformity free of charge, whether by repair or replacement of the goods, is intended to protect consumers from the risk of financial burdens which, as the Advocate General observed in point 49 of his Opinion, might discourage them from asserting their rights in the absence of such protection. This guarantee of the lack of charge, intended by the Community legislature, means that the seller cannot make any financial claim in connection with the performance of its obligation to bring into conformity the goods to which the contract relates.”

#kuluttajariitalautakunta #krl

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Yeah, maybe the auto industry is active on this behind the scenes, but less so in public.
The tax mess in the auto sector needs to be swept under the rug first…

It certainly can’t be the case that a used car gets a “forever” warranty at the dealership’s expense, to put it bluntly.

Fortunately, the Consumer Disputes Board doesn’t get to legislate in Finland…
Perhaps court rulings will again be sought to determine where the line for liability/compensation is drawn..

Car dealerships have thick skin; they don’t flinch at the little things.
I’ve had a couple of cases myself when a VW timing chain stretched and an Audi was guzzling oil; it was “colorful” in both instances, and both had under 100k km on the clock…

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Here are Rauli’s and Thomas’s comments on April’s car sales :slight_smile:

Used car sales developed positively in Finland in April, but after an encouraging March, new car sales turned back into a decline. The number of used cars sold through dealerships developed in line with the market in April.

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Here are Rauli’s pre-match thoughts as Kamux reports its Q1 results on Tuesday :slight_smile:

We expect Kamux’s revenue to have decreased significantly from the comparison period, driven by lower volumes, but we expect the adjusted operating profit to turn slightly positive. We expect the company to reiterate its guidance predicting earnings growth, even though Kamux’s position still appears challenging.

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If Kamux performs as Rauli has analyzed, with Q1/26 operating profit at +€0.2M compared to -€1.9M in Q1/25, does that improvement really just stem from a “softer comparison period”?
Doesn’t the earnings improvement actually result from entirely different reasons and fundamentals?

I hope that the bottom for Kamux & the car trade has been seen and things are looking up; there are signs of this.

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This isn’t on the AI, but on my writing. This is specifically meant to say that in our view, Kamux’s fundamentals haven’t significantly improved compared to, for example, the end of last year, but the comparison period is so poor that an improvement is still expected. On the other hand, it’s meant to convey that similar earnings growth isn’t expected from other quarters this year. And perhaps thirdly, that the performance is still weak in absolute terms, even if an improvement occurs.

By the way, I’ll be at Oriola’s and Fiskars’ CMDs all day tomorrow, so the analysis of Kamux’s results will be left for later in the evening on my part. Therefore, there won’t be a live stream or forum comments tomorrow, but the report will be out on Wednesday as usual.

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Operating profit still in the red. This is certainly no top-tier performance.

January–March 2026

  • Revenue decreased by 11.8% to EUR 205.1 million (232.6)

  • Gross profit was EUR 19.0 million (18.1), or 9.3% (7.8) of revenue

  • Adjusted operating profit was EUR -1.0 million (-1.9), or -0.5% (-0.8) of revenue

  • Operating profit was EUR -1.0 million (-2.6), or -0.5% (-1.1) of revenue

  • Number of cars sold decreased by 6.6% to 13,727 cars (14,694)

  • Basic and diluted earnings per share were EUR -0.03 (-0.10)

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Are Germany and Sweden being scaled back already? The number of employees is at least in a sharp decline.

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I would have been ready to bet that the demand for used electric vehicles would have temporarily pushed the quarterly figures well into the black, but perhaps the company will state that the “sales mix was slightly off.” Once again. Towards the one-euro mark we go, then.

Well, the demand for electric vehicles only really picked up in Q2, so perhaps Kamux will brighten up then as well.

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Kamux estimates that the used car market declined in the first quarter of 2026 compared to the prior-year period in all of its operating countries. In Finland, however, the number of used cars sold by car dealerships grew by 1.1% compared to the corresponding period in 2025.

So, in Finland, dealership sales volumes for used cars grew by 1.1%. However, the number of cars sold by Kamux in Finland fell by 9.3%. From this, one can likely conclude that competitors are taking Kamux’s market share in a big way.

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The problem here is that if the sales mix was wrong in Q1—meaning there were no EVs in stock—how would that mix improve in Q2 when everyone is competing for the same units? It might even happen that they fight tooth and nail to fill their inventory with EVs, and then Hormuz opens up, gas costs 1.5e/liter, and EV prices collapse.

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The figures certainly look bad, and the explanations behind them remain the same. Has anyone compared the figures of different car dealerships (volumes, gross margin, EBITDA, share of services in revenue, etc.) somewhere? One would need to see if there are even prerequisites for improvement here.

For the first time, watching an earnings call is causing second-hand embarrassment… The CEO is reading from a teleprompter/notes and is struggling badly. Kalliokoski is likely a good operational manager for a car dealership, but the boots of a listed company’s CEO are too large, as the job includes public speaking in English (have Kamux’s earnings calls been conducted in English before?). I bet the actual expertise isn’t as shaky as the presentation style. Oh dear…

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