Inderes Coffee Room (Part 3)

If the collapse comes when least expected, and every day is focused on fearing it, then logic in its beauty is a perfect defense against collapse.

The only risk is if the logic doesn’t hold.

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Could some kind soul convert all their investments to cash now and announce it here, just for the rest of us :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: We’ll reimburse them in ten or twenty years when the crash never happened…

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A very relevant question that almost every Tesla investor has probably pondered. Tesla is very strongly personified by Musk, and based on what is known publicly, Musk wields power very strongly, pretty much in a “my way or the highway” style. No one can probably make an educated guess as to what the company’s top management would become if Musk were to leave the helm. It is certain that the change would be significant: if a dictator is replaced by a new one, the new line belongs to the new dictator, but whether that is realistic, given that Musk’s power is based on owning the company, it’s not. So, the leadership model will inevitably change; after Musk, the main owner is unlikely to be very good at or even willing to manage the company’s practical operations. Hired expertise will be needed in leadership, and the actual structure of administration and decision-making will likely become quite different from Musk’s time. I don’t have a crystal ball on my shelf to see the consequences.

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I can implement it if I get it inflation-adjusted in ten years. :wink:

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@Verneri_Pulkkinen, thank you for the good and thought-provoking “Quarter Hour”. On a scale of one to ten, how much did we forum members, both the Hyzon thread and the Tesla thread, inspire you in the hooligan theme of this video? :upside_down_face:
https://twitter.com/Vernepu/status/1452896706836811781
I notice that I am at least a semi-stock hooligan in my thoughts at times, but brother Verneri (and the markets) just don’t fully understand the coolness of a hydrogen truck flying to the moon. :upside_down_face: Jokes aside.. it’s worth watching and listening, and if you feel a sting in your heart (I felt a little bit), you can try to change your own thoughts and behavior patterns. Good manners beautify!

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https://twitter.com/burryarchive

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It seems it doesn’t bother you at all that school gets in the way :rage: Otherwise, I would definitely come to Sanomatalo :frowning: Next time then!

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Here we go. Towards financial freedom. Thank you, Inderes!

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Tweet of the day. Or tweets, because I couldn’t choose.

Edit. Oops, I was supposed to go to the coffee room :man_shrugging:t3:

@Johannes_Sippola, could you move this, please? :sweat_smile:

Edit2. Thanks! You are my hero. No one even had time to get annoyed by my blunder.

Edit3. @exe I accidentally posted in the “Bought and Sold” thread. So I certainly wasn’t trying to provoke in the Tesla thread. And these tweets aren’t related to anything else, they just made me laugh so much when I saw them, so I shared them here.

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This message was moved to the coffee room by order of :coffee: @Pavel

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Could you mention which thread this was moved from? It feels very out of context right now.

The problem is clear now, Pavel’s message wasn’t even visible at the time. No wonder it felt out of context :slight_smile:

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Hahah, maybe max. 2.

As I stated in the video, that kind of thing isn’t (fortunately) seen much in Finland yet. Maybe crypto investors are sometimes a bit more aggressive, but I’m not aware of the same kind of dismissal as, for example, in the US.

But what’s happening across the pond usually comes here in one form or another…

I thought this blog post was really good and aptly described this era.

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The market is always right, or how did that go…

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And it feels like everyone has something to say or at least an opinion about Tesla..

The Tesla is a cool black car. For me, it’s more about market expectations. Musk is such a unique character that when he shares his vision, he unintentionally gives the market too much room for interpretation. Compare this, for example, to YIT’s (a Finnish construction company) earnings releases.

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I have to follow the trend now and take a stance on Tesla.

Tesla’s success as an investment requires:

  • Tesla grows at a pace and with a profitability never before seen in the world.
  • Tesla becomes the largest company in the world or at least one of the largest.
  • Tesla becomes a market leader in its field AND disrupts many other industries.

Will Tesla succeed in these things? Maybe. I’ve heard quite interesting and enlightening bull arguments.

Does Tesla offer the best risk-adjusted return to investors in the market? No.

The market has a huge number of good companies that can double your investment with much smaller development steps.

Tesla point number 2:

I understand that the company has gathered a large number of fans around it. Robotics, environmental friendliness, and artificial intelligence are really interesting things.

What I don’t understand is that many have made it part of their personal identity to hate Tesla, wish ill on the company, and celebrate when the stock price falls. Such negativity brings nothing good into anyone’s life. Why not focus on the companies and things that bring happiness?

Regards,
Kukkahattu-Heiskanen

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I’ve seen white ones too :wink:

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Jonnet won’t remember, but before, people bought shares for dividends and the stock price rose the day before the ex-dividend date. :wink: You can’t even see tomorrow’s ex-dividend date from Telia’s stock price, even with a magnifying glass.

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Well, it probably is, but the quality of American cars hasn’t changed from what it used to be, as Keke once compared a Ferrari (albeit to an Italian one) to a McLaren, saying you can just see it… but brands and preferences rule in motoring, even for me :shushing_face:

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