CAMBI ASA - the real shithole

Cambi has been discussed a few times in different places, so I decided to create its own thread for it. Perhaps this way we can gather even the little discussion in one place.
The introduction is largely the same as this pitching competition entry. Of course, I made some additions and updates.

What the company does

Cambi ASA is a Norwegian company and the world’s leading provider of Thermal Hydrolysis Process (THP) solutions for the treatment of wastewater sludge and organic waste. The company developed the thermal hydrolysis process in the early 1990s and has since become a well-known and reliable technology supplier in advanced anaerobic digestion and biogas solutions. Due to its long history, the company should have a good number of patents protecting it.

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Video of the process:
https://vimeo.com/870276237

The company itself has stated that it is the market leader in its technological niche with up to 90% global market share. There are currently 89 facilities in 27 different countries, processing the waste of 118 million people.
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Thermal Hydrolysis

How it works

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  1. Heating and pressurization: Sludge is heated to high temperatures (approx. 150-170°C) and subjected to high pressure (approx. 7 bar) using steam.
  2. Cell disintegration: This combination of heat and pressure breaks down the cell walls of microorganisms in the sludge, releasing water and organic matter.
  3. Rapid depressurization: The sludge is rapidly depressurized, causing further breakdown of organic matter.
  4. Resulting product: The end product is a more liquid sludge that is easier to handle and further process.

Benefits

  • Improved biodegradability: The process makes sludge more biodegradable, which improves the efficiency of subsequent treatment processes, such as anaerobic digestion.
  • Pathogen reduction: It sterilizes the sludge, destroying pathogens and making it safer for agricultural use.
  • Volume reduction: With the breakdown of organic matter, the volume of waste is significantly reduced.
  • Energy production: The process produces biogas, which can be used as a renewable energy source.
  • Improved dewaterability: Treated sludge is easier to dewater, reducing disposal costs.

This process is widely used in wastewater treatment plants to improve the overall efficiency and sustainability of waste management.

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Considerations

  • Costs: Thermal hydrolysis systems can be expensive to install and operate.
  • Complexity: The process requires advanced equipment and skilled operators.
  • Energy consumption: It consumes a significant amount of energy, although this can be offset by the biogas produced.

Alternatives

  • Anaerobic digestion: Effective in biogas production and sludge volume reduction, but may not achieve the same level of pathogen reduction.
  • Composting: Good for producing soil conditioner, but requires space and time.
  • Chemical treatment: Can be simpler and cheaper, but not necessarily as effective in volume reduction or energy production.
Business segments

The company introduced new business segment divisions at the Q3 2023 CMD.

Technology:
This includes the design, manufacturing, and installation of THPs. This accounts for 75% of revenue.

Solutions:
This includes maintenance of installed equipment, spare parts, expansions, etc. (i.e., fairly continuous revenue), as well as Grønn Vekst, which packages and distributes material derived from waste in Norway, used, for example, in gardens. For instance, the field of the Ullevaal athletics stadium has been made with these materials.
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The Technologies segment is slightly more profitable. Its gross margin percentage has been above 50%, while for the Solutions segment it is approximately 45%.

Their order backlog is currently distributed as follows.
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Financial situation

In 2022, Cambi’s order backlog took a big leap, which has naturally started to reflect in revenue.
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I haven’t thoroughly investigated the reason for this leap.

Projects last approximately 2-3 years, and the order backlog is currently expected to convert into revenue according to this timeline.
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Regarding EBIT, a kind of profitability breakeven seems to have been around 100 MNOK in quarterly revenue.
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Order intake has varied quite a lot quarter by quarter over time.
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To my recollection, the growth of the order backlog was at some point hampered by the company’s resources; however, I understand that investments were made in this area at the beginning of this year, which was also reflected in Q1 profitability.

About Valuation

Cambi’s stock performance has looked like this.
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TIKR gives Cambi the following figures.
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For the dividend party, please note that Cambi aims to distribute 60-80% of its earnings as dividends. Last year, a dividend of 1 NOK was paid, so at the last closing price, the dividend yield would be around 7%.

Cambi is followed by DNB, which at the time of writing gives a target price of 19 NOK (current price 14.40 NOK). Their investment case is based on the valuation of peers, which measured by the EV/EBITDA multiple, is significantly higher for them than for CAMBI (x12 vs. x9).
https://www.dnb.no/seg-fundamental/fundamentalweb/inst/companyreportsa1024.aspx?cid=10553&uid=&auth=&pwd=&popup=n

Current Situation and My Own Thoughts

Cambi currently has 18 projects underway. My investment pitch was that after a weak Q1 result, management announced that several project milestones would fall into future quarters, so I guessed Q2 had the potential for a good result. This indeed happened, and it was a record quarter.

Initially, the market reacted positively, but the well-started day was ruined by a press release, which stated that the CEO had sold all of his investment company’s Cambi holdings. Three days later, a new announcement followed, stating that the CEO was leaving and Per Lillebø, Chairman of the Board, founder, and main owner of the company, had been appointed as interim CEO.
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Although there is still a way to go to DNB’s target price, and I believe it is well-justified, I currently see no short-term drivers for the share price to rise. Such drivers could, of course, be new large orders. In the earnings call, the CEO did say that the sales pipeline was quite good, but due to the subsequent CEO turmoil, it is difficult to assess its development.

In the earnings call, the CEO mentioned their biggest challenges as increasing awareness of the technology and the slow purchasing and decision-making cycles of public sector-focused customers.

In my opinion, Cambi has an interesting niche product in a sector suitable for current trends. Who wouldn’t want cleaner wastewater, especially when its end product can be utilized in gardens and energy production? I own a few percent of the company.

Time will tell if the company succeeds on the administrative side as well, in what is the basic idea of their business: “PUT THE SHIT TOGETHER”

Acknowledgements

Thanks to users @Polakki , @Bjorninen , @Hapzu , @Deep_Value and @Contrafun for their contributions to this company so far. Hopefully, it will continue in this thread, and we’ll get more discussants involved.

Thanks also to Co-pilot for writing the Thermohydrolysis section.

I will post in the thread if I update this.

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Cambi will publish its Q3 results next week on Thursday, 7 Nov 2024, so here is a brief update on recent events.

Extraordinary General Meeting and New Chairman

Last Friday, Cambi held an extraordinary general meeting where acting CEO, company founder, and major shareholder Per Lillebø stepped down from the position of Chairman of the Board, and Andreas Mørk was appointed in his place. According to the minutes, the appointment lasts until the Annual General Meeting.

I don’t know if this is a temporary solution related to the search for a new CEO.

Meeting minutes:
2024.10.25 - Cambi ASA - Minutes of an Extraordinary General Meeting.pdf (445.8 KB)

New Order from Mallorca

After a long time, Cambi also announced a new order for a THP plant from Mallorca. This is a small order in terms of its size category. The previous press release regarding a new order was from January.

Cambi has a rather pleasant way of announcing the order size in its press releases using a table like this.
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Press release:
2024.10.29 - Press Release - Cambi is awarded a contract in Palma de Mallorca.pdf (187.7 KB)

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Cambi announced it would publish its Q3 report on Thursday, Nov 7, but it popped out already on Wednesday, Nov 6, at around 6 PM Finnish time. The same phenomenon occurred in Q2 as well. A curious habit for the company. Apparently, many in the market didn’t notice this, as only 12 trades were made after six, with a total of 812 shares changing hands.

The investor call is tomorrow at 11 AM Finnish time.

Key observations

  • Revenue grew 18% YoY, but declined just under 10% from the previous quarter.

  • No new orders were received, so the order backlog decreased for the second consecutive quarter. Now down by about 10%.

  • Service order intake naturally fluctuates less than the project-based Technology side.

  • Cash reserves had decreased by 85 MNOK, as inventories were increased and apparently some other working capital-related items have accumulated.

  • The company has invested in personnel resources, and personnel costs grew by over 40% YoY (41.9 MNOK → 59.3 MNOK). In Technology: 34 → 46.6 and in Solutions: 7.9 → 12.7.

  • Solutions had increased sales of the soil product from 66t to 81t.

  • An interesting observation is that the Lviv project in Ukraine restarted after being on hold for obvious reasons.

  • The CEO left, as I understand it, of his own accord. The founder and main owner (Chairman of the Board) became the CEO, and a representative of the second-largest owner became the new Chairman. It would be nice to know more about these arrangements and plans.

  • Amidst the shake-up, the company’s visual identity changed, including the logo and website.
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  • In the UK, a five-year Asset Management Period (AMP8) is beginning, which is expected to bring business to Cambi as well.

Graphs
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Speculation
On trailing 12-month figures, EV/EBITDA is around 9.5, while for competitors it hovers around 11–13 for 2025 and 2026 according to DNB. Quite a decent situation, but closing that gap would probably require growth in the order backlog. So far, nothing more has been said about that other than that investments have been made in human resources regarding sales, marketing, and production, plus there was a mention of the UK potential. Otherwise, there was only a vague “there is interest” comment.

So, most likely no rocket-like surge is expected, but there probably is some kind of potential.

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DNB views the outlook shared by management positively and maintains the target price at 19 NOK.

https://www.dnb.no/seg-fundamental/fundamentalweb/inst/GetReport.aspx?file=CMP4_247538.pdf&uid=&auth=&pwd=&popup=n

“We believe the company looks well positioned for new orders on the strong market growth, most notably in the UK, with a new five-year water infrastructure investment cycle due to commence in 2025, where the budget is up 73% from the previous cycle

“For near-term prospects, we highlight the ongoing or recently completed engineering studies in France and the UK, where one ongoing study in the UK could translate into firm contracts.”

Management, however, was unable to estimate the timing of orders.

In the webcast, the acting CEO said that there is no rush in searching for a new CEO.

Edit: added points while listening to the Q&A.

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Uutta projektia kehitteillä Intiaan:

Summary of Cambi ASA’s Contract in India

  • Contract Signing: Cambi India Private Limited has secured a contract to implement India’s inaugural thermal hydrolysis process (THP) systems for the Municipal Corporation of Greater Mumbai (MCGM) at the Versova wastewater treatment plant.
  • Project Collaboration: The project will be executed in partnership with DRN Infrastructure, a prominent Indian construction and engineering firm.
  • Operational Benefits:
    • THP will enhance biological sludge processing, reducing anaerobic digester volume by up to two-thirds and improving energy yields.
    • The system will significantly increase the dryness of the resulting biosolids and reduce their volume.
  • Environmental and Health Impact:
    • The produced nutrient-rich biosolids comply with the US EPA 503 Regulation for Class A, enabling safe land recycling and promoting Mumbai’s circular economy.
    • The process will mitigate odors, lower storage costs, and decrease climate emissions.
  • Equipment Durability: The THP units are designed specifically for Mumbai’s challenging hot and wet coastal climate, ensuring durability and reliability.
  • Comprehensive Support: Cambi will provide operational support, maintenance services, digester coolers, and steam boilers to ensure long-term operational stability.
  • Leadership Insight: CEO Per Lilleboe expressed enthusiasm for the project, highlighting its potential impact on sustainable urban development in India and its alignment with Cambi’s mission to tackle climate and energy issues.
  • Company Overview: Cambi has been a leader in biogas technology since 1992, successfully delivering installations across 28 countries. Their THP technology enhances renewable energy, reduces costs, and minimizes greenhouse gas emissions.

This contract represents a significant milestone in Cambi’s expansion into India, underscoring its commitment to innovative waste management solutions.

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Something is going on. The results will be published on March 4th, meaning probably traditionally on March 3rd after the stock market closes.

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No news related to Cambi seems to be available for the past week. One factor in Cambi’s stock is the share purchases by the Norwegian investment company of E. Stenshagen (Stenshagen Invest AS).

The investment company bought almost 3 million Cambi shares last year. With these purchases, Stenshagen’s investment company rose to 4th place on Cambi’s list of largest shareholders last year. → https://www.investors.cambi.com/share#largest-shareholders

Cambi ASA shareholders

According to tables from Finansavisen newspaper, Stenshagen Invest bought an additional 800,000 shares in January, as shown on the January shareholder list. Now in February, an additional 500,000 shares have been purchased, meaning the ownership has now risen to over 4.2 million shares, representing a 2.65% ownership stake.

Stenshagen Invest

Purchases on Jan 23 and Feb 5.

Cambi ASA 2024-11-14 to 2025-02-14

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Thanks @Contrafun for digging up the information. :tophat:

I had missed that DNB had already significantly raised the target price to NOK 23 in December. The justifications were:
"In our view, AMP8 (2025–2030 water utility investment
cycle in England and Wales) could trigger a sharp uptick
in activity for Cambi (which covers 50% of the UK
market), with: 1) Ofwat proposing a 73% increase in
spending; and 2) a higher focus on emissions reductions
and biosolids handling."

"Given a typical lead time of ~18 months between the start of
an AMP and capex being deployed, we do not expect any material revenues from AMP8
for Cambi until 2026–2027."

https://www.dnb.no/seg-fundamental/fundamentalweb/inst/GetReport.aspx?file=CMP4_248952.pdf&uid=&auth=&pwd=&popup=n

This seems like a nice stock to hold.

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Cambi, in its traditional manner, published its earnings report the evening before the announced date, after the stock market closed.

No cheers, at least not regarding the order backlog:

"Key highlights Q4 2024 (Q4 2023):

  • Operating income: 234 (294)
  • EBITDA: 39 (59)
  • Order intake: 143 (46)
  • Order backlog: 1,232 (1,542)

Key highlights FY 2024 (FY 2023):

  • Operating income: 1,033 (977)
  • EBITDA: 226 (249)
  • Order intake: 724 (1,453)
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Slightly below DNB’s forecasts.
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CMP4_253470.pdf (378.3 KB)

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The decrease in the order backlog is starting to show in revenue. However, a couple of orders had come in earlier this year. One from a new market in India and another from an old one in Spain.

On the Solution side, some project in England had gone wrong, causing costs and partly contributing to the decline in profitability.
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Let’s continue the monologue in this thread in case someone ever gets interested in the company.

Cambi published its Q1 results a couple of weeks ago.

Revenue grew only slightly from a weak year ago, and after personnel investments, this is also reflected in poor profitability.
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Edit: Chart updated

The company commented that the stagnation is due to delayed projects:
“On several projects, delays in workstreams outside Cambi’s scope resulted in limited or no registered progress during the period.”

There are a total of 17 projects underway, and for 5 additional projects, the client’s green light is awaited. A couple of projects are on the drawing board.

Four new orders were received, but they were small enough that the order backlog continued to decline. However, there is a record number of projects in the pipeline awaiting completion, so revenue should be forthcoming. (Accumulated revenue in the chart)
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The share price took a hit immediately after the release but recovered quite quickly, probably as soon as investors had time to sift through the end of the report, where the revenue in the pipeline is announced. Of course, trading volume has been very low and spreads wide.
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Over the last year, the share price development has been quite good, so apparently, a certain group of investors still has confidence in the company.
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No new report was published by DNB, and the target price of 24 NOK announced in the earnings forecast has remained.

The company commented on U.S. tariffs during the earnings call as follows:

“Manufacturing continued in San Francisco, Louisville, Perth, Wellington, and Lviv. For the U.S. projects, part of the scope is manufactured locally to avoid the recently introduced tariffs.”

“Project milestone delays are still deferring some revenue recognition. We do, however, expect delays in project execution in quarter 1 to end and progress to be resumed in the coming quarters of 2025. In the U.S., the introduction of tariffs in April has created additional uncertainty. The latest announcement has waived steel tariffs while keeping a 10% tariff for U.K. origin. Cambi’s main concern was related to the steel tariffs, which affected 3 ongoing U.S. projects with shipments scheduled from the U.K. in the near future. It is important to mention that all ongoing U.S. contracts exclude tariffs from the base price and cost recovery mechanisms are available. However, there are risks tied to approval processes and the timing of milestone payments. Parts of our U.S. projects will be produced in the U.S. and thereby avoiding tariffs.”

"The trade agreement between the U.S. and the U.K., recently announced, reduces the uncertainty regarding tariffs for projects in the U.S. "

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@_TeemuHinkula It looks like you’ve been keeping this thread alive practically on your own here. Let me contribute at least a little something to this thread from my part.

I am still a shareholder in this “sh*t plant”, which I still find to be an interesting and competitive investment option as a company. Unfortunately, due to other commitments, I haven’t been following the company’s progress very closely. Nothing very significant has happened in the company recently either, if I’ve understood correctly. Fairly steady going, even though quarterly results for this type of company fluctuate heavily. I personally like to follow the order backlog and its development in quarterly reports, as well as the news published by the company about new projects sold. The company issues a press release whenever a larger deal is made. As I understand it, the threshold is a 15 million (NOK) deal, which triggers a press release.

Yesterday, a release came out about a slightly larger project sold to Mumbai. The size of the deal is 100-200m (NOK) and it will be completed by the end of next year. This is already a fairly large deal since the company’s annual revenue is around a billion. Below is a link to the press release.

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The share price has recently been fluctuating around the 15-20 NOK range. A rise of about 10 percent following this news. I indeed still find the company interesting due to the growing market. There are risks, of course, but I believe the upside potential is also great, if the market grows at the expected double-digit rate per year and Cambi manages to maintain its position as a market leader in this small niche field.

So far, the stock doesn’t seem to attract much interest from retail investors. It’s interesting to be involved at the so-called early stage, if the company grows to be even moderately large and reaches the billion-euro scale. Market cap in euros is now around 200m.

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Let’s link this biomethane industry forecast for 2030 here as well.

Cambi announced two major orders from the UK last week.
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Both are in the 100-200 MNOK range, which is quite significant compared to the 1,000 MNOK order backlog reported in the Q4 results. In DNB’s analyses (to which I no longer have access), these UK orders have been predicted in relation to the UK’s five-year AMP8 transformation regarding water industry regulation.

Here is an excerpt from Q4.
Projects are running smoothly, and milestones were achieved to the extent that 135 MNOK landed in the account during the quarter, which is the highest figure in my own records.


There is also a good amount of future revenue from ongoing projects in the pipeline.

Operating profit follows revenue quite steadily.

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