Investment forum flagging discussion and post-mortem

YES!!! Definitely not appropriate

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This one got at least 40 likes?

Double standard?

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I don’t think there’s even a single standard here. The community flags what it flags, and moderators then evaluate whether the flags are justified based on their best current decision-making ability. Since there are many different types of flaggers and activity varies, sometimes the sieve is looser and sometimes tighter.

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The latter is perhaps funnier and therefore tolerated. The content is exactly as zero as the aforementioned literary outburst.

I’m not really into those GIFs. There are a lot of coders on the forum and they apparently find it familiar and safe :kissing_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Yes, it’s generally good practice to briefly refer to blind links and foreign languages, even if it’s just a few words. It’s less effort for the linker, especially when considering that thousands of people seeing the tweet or link would otherwise have to use Google Translate or go back to school. Most people also have day jobs in addition to reading. Just generally speaking.

On another forum, which has the same appearance as this one, moderators are very strict about such small nuances, and over time, I’ve come to appreciate that. Even though I initially thought it was unnecessary nitpicking. By the way, the flagging thread on that particular forum is also red hot day after day :slight_smile:

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Agreed - if you can’t be bothered to refer to the linked item or quoted text with even one accompanying sentence, it probably wasn’t worth linking/quoting. Except perhaps if you link sentence-sized tweets whose main content is some numerical data that everyone will understand.

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It’s easy to agree with this. I don’t really understand how there’s enough time to search for information and link it to the forum, but then when it comes to explaining the content of the link in a few words, that’s precisely when time runs out for some reason. This has been the explanation in many threads and on many forums in similar situations. Based on the Evo thread, others should learn Swedish or translate texts with Google Translate. It might indeed be a slightly smaller project if the linker explains why they are linking something, rather than everyone else wondering individually what it’s all about. Even with Finnish-language content.

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Messages that comment on the stock price unnecessarily should, in principle, be flagged or removed by the administration, as they don’t add anything new to the discussion. Everyone can see if a stock is falling. If the message contains valid points explaining why this is the case, then, of course, it’s a different matter. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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I have not flagged those messages, but wondering about daily share price changes doesn’t add value to the discussion, unless concrete reasons influencing the change are also provided. As I understand it, there’s a separate thread specifically for marvelling at share price changes.

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Different discussion threads have developed their own operating culture, and that’s a good thing. Where would ordinary Juurikki find comments from technical experts if there were no Nokia discussion thread? It’s not mandatory to read every link, but they are intended for those who understand more about the subject. Juurikki, of all people, has the least time to read links. It’s enough to skim and form an overall picture. And then wait a few more years for the big turnaround.

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These do not belong in company-specific threads, as indicated by the flags. Especially in IPO company threads, an increasing number of flaggable messages appear about how one’s own subscription is going and how many shares one might receive. These, of course, do not add any value to company-specific threads.

If you have questions about IPOs or brokers, you should check out the threads below:

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Probably over half of the recent messages in the Puuilo thread have ended up being flagged and removed for good reason. Even your message about consumers’ statutory return rights has little to do with Puuilo, so there’s no point in thinking about others’ power control problems if it ends up being flagged.

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So now, should there be a separate thread for Puuilo’s return policies?

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I also made the mistake of writing an off-topic comment in the Puuilo thread, but it’s good that someone flagged it.:joy:

If your own message is flagged, you should take a look in the mirror and ask if it adds value to the forum. If not, then let it be, but you can still edit it to be more appropriate if you feel it had a point.

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Not really, but a general discussion about consumer rights could very well end up being flagged. Especially if it contains misinformation.

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Fundamentally, in company threads, every message should add value and be related to the company in question. The right of return and related practices are not specifically related to Puuilo; they are general topics and should therefore be discussed, for example, in the Coffee Room.

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The right of return and related policies are related to the retail industry. When considering competitive advantages, that could be important information for some investors, right?

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This could actually be a good idea.

This has been suggested before. Here’s one of Verneri’s responses:

It’s generally interesting how many users spend exponentially more time complaining about flagging than they do on contributing to the original message. Someone first throws a one-liner into a company thread that isn’t related to anything (or is very loosely related) after about 15 seconds of thought. But then, when it gets flagged, they write n long messages, appealing to everything from freedom of speech onwards.

The forum has certain rules and practices. Writing here is voluntary, and by participating, one exposes oneself to these rules. Moderators ultimately decide on message removal, not flaggers—that’s also good to remember.

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It often feels like the flaggers/moderators think that: a long message = value-adding and on-topic.

It has also seemed that messages are deleted and moved inconsistently, and the deleter doesn’t even read the discussion. So only an individual message or part of a message unrelated to the topic is moved or deleted.

Does every sentence need to include the company name for the message to be on-topic?

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At least I was waving the flag there :innocent:

And besides, it’s the moderator who ultimately decides what to do with a flagged message - or if anything is done at all.

E: The flagger also gets a ‘track-record’ from flagging, and if they misuse it, they will be suspended themselves.

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