Lassila & Tikanoja

This deal came under closer scrutiny: KKV selvittää Lassila & Tikanojan yrityskauppaa | Kauppalehti

The Finnish Competition and Consumer Authority (KKV) initiates further proceedings in the acquisition where L&T Environmental Services acquires Stena Recycling’s pallet business.

Here is the press release about the deal from last October; it has, of course, already been shared earlier in the thread: Lassila & Tikanoja vahvistaa korjaus- ja kierrätysliiketoimintaansa ostamalla Stena Recyclingin kuormalavaliiketoiminnan | L&T

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Now we just have to wait for the decision regarding the investigation. In itself, L&T’s decision to buy that business group (recycled pallets) from Stena was, in my opinion, very sensible. Perhaps even too sensible in the opinion of the competition authorities :grinning:

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To my eye, and reflecting on LT’s M&A history, the acquisition appears to be for some material/recycling business.

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The chain is very quiet; yesterday, we had the L&T annual general meeting(https://www.inderes.fi/releases/lassila-and-tikanoja-oyjn-varsinaisen-yhtiokokouksen-paatokset-ja-hallituksen-jarjestaytyminen-2 ), which is one of the best meeting venues, by the way, if you disregard its somewhat remote location. Of course, from Huopalahti station, for example, it’s only about a 10-minute walk to the White House, whose auditorium’s comfortable seats are a nice change from the traditional chairs at most annual general meetings. By my rough estimate, there were 50-60 shareholders present (I’ll have to check when the meeting minutes are published in April), and the company’s staff was also well represented.

The Chairman of the Board, Jukka Leinonen, and CEO Eero Hautaniemi gave quite good presentations. The persistent problem continues to be the Swedish property services, whose turnaround seems to be taking a long time; it took about five years for the Finnish property services to turn around. Sweden was also burdened by the loss of one major client. However, a stricter line has now been adopted there, and it is made clear to clients at what price the company is willing to make agreements, and so-called unprofitable agreements are not entered into. Of course, one would think this is self-evident. The piloting of the new ERP system has gone well, and it is being done in pieces, meaning the entire system will not be relied upon until it has been thoroughly tested.

After the strategic assessment, it was indeed decided last December to separate Property Services into a separate listed company, and during the assessment, the usual method of market perception of its price was used, but as we can see, at least no viable buyer candidate emerged. As an estimate for the company’s market capitalization of 350 million yesterday, one could suggest that Property Services (Sweden and Finland) account for 50 million and Environmental and Industrial Services for 300 million. In my opinion, there is a great danger that Property Services will become an outcast company, whose share value could fall even below one euro, as larger funds cannot own such mini-companies according to their rules. Environmental and Industrial Services, of course, get to shine, and their returns on capital are in a completely different league than those of Property Services, which are placed in a tight spot. However, both the Chairman of the Board and the CEO assured that the separation was the best option for shareholders. The final decision on the matter will naturally be made by an extraordinary general meeting to be held at the end of the year.

What I find encouraging is the increase in foreign ownership; for a long time, it hovered below 10%, and according to the latest ownership list, the share is now slightly over 14% https://www.lt.fi/sijoittajat/osake/osakkeenomistajat . Hopefully, it’s not about vultures, though!? Inderes unfortunately stopped maintaining the list of nominee-registered owners, so in addition to the Norwegian fund mentioned earlier in the chain, interesting names might be hidden there. Could the Bloomberg terminal provide an answer? I’m not currently paying the rather hefty annual fee for access :slight_smile: Hint Hint @Rauli_Juva, you probably have access through the company!?

The coffee service was good; there were both sweet and savory snacks, and both were also vegan, which is, of course, appropriate for a company that cares about the environment:
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One more thing to add is that people from Flik (not Flix, as I sometimes remembered, because I’ve used FlixBus a couple of times abroad in the last year :slight_smile: ) were present, so it’s likely that we’ll still get to see the CEO’s review.

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It’s strange that this is only realized when millions in losses are being churned out :thinking:

According to Bloomberg’s data, there aren’t any very large individual foreign holdings, but for example, Protector, which flagged 5%, doesn’t even appear on the list. Dimensional Fund Advisors seemed to be just over 1% among the largest on Bloomberg.

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Thanks, yes, that’s an interesting point, as it’s hard to find proper and up-to-date information anywhere about who is hidden behind those nominee registrations. Some companies nicely mention the nominee-registered owners by name in their ownership list, not just the bank managing the shares. Hedge funds probably want to operate in secret and don’t want publicity. Norwegian Protector is a good owner in that sense, as they reportedly ask many knowledgeable questions, even though a board seat doesn’t seem to be their goal. By the way, two women were elected as new members to L&T’s board, one of them being Betolar’s CEO Tuija Kalpala Hallituksen jäsen Tuija Kalpala | L&T and the other Anna-Maria Tuominen-Reini Hallituksen jäsen Anna-Maria Tuominen-Reini | L&T, who is currently preparing a doctoral dissertation. I don’t remember the exact research topic, but it is closely related to the environment and circular economy. Good additions, they made a very good first impression when introducing themselves. Generally speaking, the board also has very good knowledge of the circular economy, so once we get rid of the burden of Real Estate Services, one could imagine the company’s future to be quite good.

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Separating the recycling business from property maintenance makes sense. The recycling business generated 90% of L&T’s EBITDA in 2024, and otherwise, the profiles of these businesses are completely different in terms of margins and capital. Property maintenance will likely be better able to streamline its operations as an independent company, rather than being subordinate to the recycling business’s strategy.

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CEO Eero Hautaniemi’s review from this spring’s Annual General Meeting! :blush:

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Rauli published a company report on L&T. :slight_smile:

L&T’s share has fallen to an almost all-time low, and we believe the valuation looks attractive. We raise our recommendation to buy (previously add), with the target price remaining at 10 euros.

Quoted from the report:

Based on the P/E ratio, L&T is priced at 10x with 2025 earnings, which decreases to approximately 9x with 2026-27 forecasts, which we also consider a low level. Historically, the P/E ratio has been around 14x, although we consider this somewhat too high again, considering the earnings growth potential and current debt level. We see an acceptable range for the P/E ratio as 12-14x.

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A rare treat, that Buy recommendation for L&T :slight_smile: The report also discussed the separation of Finnish and Swedish property services into their own company, and a rough estimate seems to be that they represent 25% of the current company’s value. Probably so, but when the markets eventually price them, value will surely shift to Circular Economy Businesses, meaning the ratio will change to 10/90%. Well, it’s not that simplistic, of course, but the combined value compared to current levels could be over 100%.

There is a silver lining, of course, that a turnaround could be achieved in the Swedish property business, but that seems to be a time-consuming project, meaning there’s a risk that we’ll have a company whose share price drops, at least temporarily, to levels of 1-1.5 euros, because not all funds can/want to own such small companies. Well, whether this is a buying opportunity for someone or not remains to be seen.

Well, there is still a possibility that a buyer for the Property Businesses might emerge after all, though it’s not very likely if there were no interested parties in the first round. What has happened since then, oh right, Tariff Man. Capital markets may be quite cautious at the moment, although L&T is not suffering from these tariff messes. However, the general weakening of the economic situation affects all companies to some extent.

Feel free to correct any misunderstandings and thanks indeed to @Rauli_Juva for the report, I gave it my seal of approval :slight_smile:

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Indeed, our first Buy for L&T. However, the potential value of EUR 100 million I estimated for property services does not mean that I see 25% of the current value being attributed to it. On the other hand, I say that the entire current value could be justified by Circular Economy operations. And with Sweden grinding out losses like the current ones, the value of Property Services will probably remain smaller than that EUR 100 million.

CEO Eero, in the AGM review linked above by Sara, already promised that better figures would be seen from Swedish Property Services during this year (and there would certainly be reason for it), so perhaps the direction there is at least towards improvement, even though the level is shockingly weak.

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What is the current situation, Lassila & Tikanoja, regarding the competition authorities’ assessment of the acquisition of the pallet business? Perhaps more will be known before Midsummer?

This can be found directly on the KKV (Finnish Competition and Consumer Authority) website, so indeed, the current deadline is in June. This concerns this deal worth approximately EUR 10 million in revenue.

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Thanks for the information. As an L&T employee, I’m eagerly looking forward to that day :slight_smile:

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L&T provided comparative data related to the new segment division; the company is thus combining the previous Environmental and Industrial Services under the heading “Circular Economy Operations” in its reporting. Fortunately, the figures largely correspond to previous reporting (i.e., just sum Environmental and Industrial together to get the Circular Economy segment figure), so comparability is well preserved here even with history. Somehow I remembered that Real Estate Services would also be bundled together, but fortunately, Finland and Sweden continue separately there, so we can monitor whether Sweden’s losses start to ease.

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In the preliminary report published a couple of weeks ago, there was apparently an incorrect Q1 forecast for the result in the forecast table (EUR 1.5 million, when it should have been 1.0 as elsewhere in the report). Below is the correct table with the latest consensus; the results will be released tomorrow morning at 8 AM.

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Well, this looks quite good: Lassila & Tikanoja Oyj:n osavuosikatsaus 1.1. - 31.3.2025 - Inderes

  • The first quarter’s net sales were EUR 175.5 million (185.0). Net sales decreased by 5.1%.
  • Adjusted operating profit was EUR 2.7 million (0.0), which was 1.5% (0.0) of net sales. Operating profit was EUR 3.7 million (-1.7), which was 2.1% (-0.9) of net sales.
  • Net cash flow from operating activities after investments was EUR 6.6 million (-9.4).
  • Earnings per share were EUR 0.09 (-0.02) and net cash flow from operating activities after investments per share was EUR 0.17 (-0.25).
  • The preparation for the partial demerger, initiated in December 2024, proceeded as planned during the review period.

And indeed, the situation in Real Estate Services is improving: In Real Estate Services, profitability improved despite the decrease in net sales. In Real Estate Services Finland, the decrease in net sales was influenced by a winter with little snow and the planned streamlining of the contract portfolio. Demand for digital services, such as data-driven cleaning and AI-assisted energy efficiency services, remained strong. Measures to lighten the cost structure and improve operational efficiency continued, and the segment’s operating profit clearly improved. In Real Estate Services Sweden, the loss decreased as expected in the first quarter. Measures to simplify operating models and adjust the cost level continued. New customer accounts gained in late 2024 and ongoing measures to improve profitability create a good foundation for Real Estate Services Sweden to achieve a turnaround in results during 2025.

At 10:30 AM, Eero will speak. I wonder if the link to the webcast was forgotten from the release; I dug it up from elsewhere: Interim Report January – March 2025

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Q1 seasonally smallest, but moving in the right direction. The debt level is also decreasing well, and the average interest rate on loans is falling along with the general decline in interest rates.

L&T makes an adjusted operating profit of over 50 million annually without Sweden’s loss-making blunders. Quite good upside leverage if one considers that the company’s market value is around 350 million. Just needs to do things less stupidly than before, and there’s a possibility for quite good value creation.

A value investor’s junk stock.

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There were no rocket emojis in @Rauli_Juva’s morning comment, even though I expected them: Lassila & Tikanoja Q1’25 -pikakommentti: Vahva tulos kausiluonteisesti hiljaisena alkuvuonna - Inderes

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@Rauli_Juva has put together a new report, I was already somewhat expecting it, there are 25 hours in a day if needed :slight_smile: : Lassila & Tikanoja Q1'25: Vahva aloitus vuodelle tukee tuloskasvunäkymää - Inderes

“L&T’s revenue decreased by 5% in Q1, which was a weaker performance than we expected. There was a decrease in all segments.”

While scrutinizing the report, it seems that Rauli doesn’t appear to have bought into this explanation regarding Finnish property services at all, or perhaps I read carelessly: “In property services in Finland, the revenue contraction was affected by a winter with little snow”. Those are notoriously very low-margin contracts. This is in addition to the revitalization of the contract portfolio.

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