Inderes Coffee Room (Part 11)

Of course, if you only look at Hollywood’s narrow selection, which is only a very small fraction of all available films (a large part financially, of course). And ultimately, only a very small part of Hollywood’s entire production is involved in “woke madness.” This is indeed a well-sold MAGA myth, where a few individual films are picked and generalized to cover all of Hollywood, and even Netflix has been blamed because they’ve made a few “woke” things.

But in practice, in the future, we will only be watching animations made with AI instead of live-action.

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Retail investors now have the opportunity of the century to make a killing as software stocks correct back upwards.

They’re so talented! :ice_skate: :open_mouth: Video 5 min.

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Way to go, Olympic bronze for Ilkka Herola in Nordic combined! :slight_smile:

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The fourth medal coffees of these Olympics are in the cup :hot_beverage:

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Excellent purchase, but unfortunately, with ETFs, it’s futile to hope for any boosts caused by a split.

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Unfortunately, you are likely much more right than I am. Still, they say it’s better to live in faith and die in hope. I’m still planning to add more as soon as some cash from elsewhere lands in my bank account.

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Am I the only one who thinks this also looks like computer animation?

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Soon we can all watch our own version of the Olympics where Finland sweeps all the gold medals :partying_face:

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Was it @Pohjolan_Eka again who recently stopped by to give the forum hypesters the facts about drugs in development and new pharma companies, and how they destroy shareholder value?

I’m grateful, as I sold most of my Faron shares earlier after reflecting on things back then. I kept a small position, just in case something comes of it after all.

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The year turned in China, and for example, the image below made with drones was on YLE’s website.
Does any of you have information on whether that figure is 3D? Meaning, does the horse figure appear as some kind of horse from every direction, depending of course on the viewing angle? Have you found images of that fire horse from other angles?

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(I wanted to reply to a post in the Market Direction thread, but it’s going off-topic so I’ll post it here).

Along the same lines (that societal divergence is widening), K-shaped economic development has already been a trend, and it’s simply going to continue more aggressively than we’ve seen. The bar for where one can actually produce value is rising insanely high.

And I wouldn’t lull myself into thinking, “well yeah, once we see the office bureaucracy and system rigidity, it won’t progress”… it probably won’t progress in FINLAND, but I wonder what happens when (foreign or even Finnish) AI-first companies run by a couple of guys emerge that do 100x the work of a 50-year-old Finnish “Bureaucrat-Pirkko” @ €5000/month in a single day.

I’ve been a coder in the software industry for over 15 years, and just at the turn of the year, agents finally reached a level where I can no longer justify the traditional way of working.

Today (while test-driving the latest Claude Opus 4.6), I implemented a partial payroll calculation for a certain Finnish sector’s collective agreement (TES) into our EU-wide system in 15 minutes. I got cleaner tests than I’d ever bother to write myself, and out of a “good week’s effective (2 weeks real-time)” scheduled implementation, 15 minutes was the agent’s work, and the rest is just me being sure enough of the output and explaining it to foreign testers. I spent the day trying to poke holes in it and find flaws; I haven’t found any yet…

As an EU-wide software company with over 100 developers, our junior recruitment has been frozen for years, and the headcount is slowly shrinking. Just today in the news, there was talk of how youth unemployment is rising in Finland… The education system reform failed the youth, but the bar has also risen insanely and keeps rising, and there’s no place for a young junior anymore unless they show up with their own portfolio, guns blazing.

A Finnish-style societal structure, with its grand promises and “A dignified life is when you get everything you want, a minimum wage of €3000, and of course, an apartment in the center of Helsinki,” is the worst possible fit for a situation where people actually have to start competing for their daily bowl of rice. The situation where the mass of retirees starts demanding their “promised pensions” and only 10% of young people are even capable of value-producing work…

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Good post, and it at least partially matches my own experiences.

What do you mean by this?

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I mean that now, if ever, a junior in the software industry needs to come to an interview with a portfolio that exceeds what even seniors at slower companies know (at our place, too, it feels like we’re just starting AI adoption because GDPR stuff etc. is scary).

So I would say that “hot stuff” consists of your own (and UNDERSTOOD + EXPLAINABLE) implementations of things like:

  • Development skills utilizing AI and agents
  • Ability to build AI workflows. How you connect your coding environment to, for example, Jira (a pretty common project management system). Do you know how to set up build pipelines in Azure for automated tests, AI code review setups. (Quite few of our seniors, including myself, know about these because the organization moves slowly)
  • A personal project where you can demonstrate a full AI workflow… you write a ticket for a change in Jira, you get it implemented quickly in the development tool… it gets an automated AI code review, and a pull request for a senior to evaluate.

In practice, this means that as a junior, you can work in a completely AI-driven way, understand the process, and produce sensible output for seniors to review. This is something I don’t even know how to do myself, but I truly believe that only with such a portfolio is there a chance to enter companies as a “junior” now…

You can learn these things using various trial accounts, and for me, the full weight is on competence rather than what’s on paper—at least that’s how I’ve evaluated juniors in the past and especially now. Degrees matter even less now; the right mindset and the ability to understand are more important.

Edit: I’ve even read on Reddit how Finnish universities are still focusing on memorizing Java syntax etc… this is not the way.

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Probably a similar vibe over there. The fire horse itself starts at around the 7-minute mark. Quite a nifty performance all in all.

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Just as a side note: what? You actually went and asked AI if AI causes mass unemployment, posted its response on the forum, and you don’t see the irony in that?

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Here is some important news about why Jeri the dog is so significant at the Olympics :slight_smile:

– It feels good when he gets happy just because I come back to the room or go throw a ball for him. He is happy regardless of how the sports go.

The dog is also helpful because at the Olympics, everyone is so focused on their elite sports. A dog helps you get out of the bubble.

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You probably realize I did that intentionally? The part of my message that you didn’t quote was my own reflection, which I used to compare against how AI sees things.

Before you start building up a cash position too much, @Verneri_Pulkkinen, it’s worth remembering, for example, last spring’s tariff dip and the “cash bros/jennas” thread and its outcome :blush:

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Don’t attack the cash thread folks just yet, it brings bad luck. :smiley:

At the index level, it doesn’t look like this, but for example, former retail favorite Revenio has sunk to new lows since spring 2025. And many other characters on the domestic exchange. There is similar movement under the indices elsewhere as well.

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