Inderes Coffee Room (Part 11)

What do you mean? :melting_face::joy:

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Verneri knows what he’s doing. You can give me the nickname “like-fisher.” @Sijoittaja-alokas

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The same in English without the sugarcoating: You won’t have a penny left by the time the moment to short actually arrives :face_with_bags_under_eyes: (in the worst-case scenario, you’ll even have to sell your Substack just to pay the rent)

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a white goat is licking its booty like a woman .

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Here is a small comparison of net profit margins :slight_smile:

https://x.com/carbonfinancex/status/2062166903821353306


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It’s a small world. About twenty years ago, I was playing book publisher and published Riku-Matti’s concisely titled master’s thesis as a booklet: “Queen: the formation of the band’s public image in the Anglo-American rock press between 1973-1992”. It’s great that the man is still focusing on meaningful topics, like Olvi.

P.S. When I also published one of my own works about twenty years ago, Olvi acted as a sponsor and got its logo on the back cover next to Tapola. Go Olvi!

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An interesting article on what investing is like today compared to the past, and it appears to be free to read.

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The AI boom is ingenious in the sense that it has many characteristics of a perpetual motion machine. Or it’s like a “FIRE” enthusiast (Financial Independence, Retire Early) who recycles even their own urine.

This chart is coming to next week’s spring season finale “Vartti” (Quarter), where I will address for the second time (last time about six months ago) the question of whether AI is a stock market bubble.

In practice, all players recycle profits back to each other, either directly or through the market as investments and debt, so they can order more cloud capacity/chips/language models. In contrast, the revenue coming from the models themselves is so small so far that it in no way covers the investments. :smiley:

Because of this, one has to envision a future where a) the prices of language models rise, b) agents use tokens at an absolutely insane rate whether they are doing sensible things or not, and c) physical AI marches through the door any moment now. :smiley:

That’s why this also looks so unstoppable. If the Big Tech companies pump Anthropic full of cash, it can order cloud capacity from them for years. Because there are bottlenecks, there is a constant shortage of capacity. Therefore, more must be invested in capacity again. :smiley:

I also made a “Vartti” about bottlenecks a moment ago.

https://www.inderes.fi/videos/rahakas-ai-pullonkaulatreidi-or-vernerin-vartti

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In the future, I will mainly strive to invest in the US only through indices and concentrate my stock picking on inefficient markets. Especially in shorter-term trading attempts, I have unfortunately often ended up drawing the short straw. That is hardly a surprise, considering that a retail investor trading on the US stock exchange is akin to gambling.

Speaking of inefficient markets, the small-cap end of the Helsinki Stock Exchange, in particular, looks wonderfully inefficient. You can contemplate stock purchases in total peace while reading the newspaper and sipping coffee from a saucer through a sugar cube. There is no FOMO because there is no hype. At least to me, it currently looks like there are numerous completely mispriced stocks among Helsinki’s small caps. Of course, they might also stay that way, precisely because the market is so inefficient.

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This put me in a great mood while getting into the summer holiday spirit. I think I’ll brew some coffee and put a sugar cube between my lips, of course.

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Have other forum members noticed or observed a steady decline in the quality of S-Group’s restaurants and service points?

I’m not exactly the biggest fan of “S-eateries” myself, but sometimes due to convenience, haste, etc., I end up visiting them with the family. Over the last few years, I have noticed a steady downward slide in quality across several S-Group feeding troughs (ABCs, Prisma buffet restaurants, etc.). This has been the case across multiple regions, for example while traveling, so this can’t really be blamed on just one local cooperative.

The quality of the food has gone down, empty dishes aren’t refilled, soda machines are low on either syrup or CO2 and the drinks seem watered down, the general level of cleanliness is poor, etc.

Yesterday evening, forced by circumstances, we went to a local ABC to eat “a la carte,” and the menus were displayed on screens on the opposite wall about 10 meters away for only 5 seconds at a time before switching to the next page. I asked if they had a traditional menu since, being nearsighted, it’s hard to browse through that quickly. “No, we don’t.” Ehhhh.

I can’t really think of any other reason than that the S-Group has grown into a structure that is too large and bloated within Finnish society, and real competition has been stifled under this oligopoly. This has been visible in the grocery trade for a long time, and now it seems the same is starting to bleed into the catering businesses.

5-10 years ago, I think ABCs and other “S-establishments” (sedulat) were still quite good places in terms of price-quality ratio. Now prices are rising and quality is falling.

Depressing. I won’t be taking my euros there anymore if there are other options.

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In many localities (for example, Joensuu), almost all restaurants are starting to fall under the S Group. Many are probably delighted because they get more of that “BONUS,” even though competition between restaurants is being stifled and the quality of service is collapsing at the same time — but no one cares about that as long as they get to flash that green card.

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I started my career as a cashier at Prisma and saw with my own eyes how people bought useless stuff just to reach the 5% bonus level (if I recall correctly, you had to spend €1,500 a month at S Group locations to get there). :smiley:

That bonus system is psychologically very clever and really resonates with the masses.

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There is definitely FOMO! To keep it in check, you should watch today’s Verneri’s Vartti.

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I’ve been there! In December 2024, Lidl offered double bonuses, meaning if you spent €1,000, you got a €200 Lidl gift card. FOMO hit hard, had to buy in.

During the days between Christmas and New Year, after a whole month of splurging, I still had to spend another €400. By then, I had so much discounted chocolate, dry goods, toothpaste, deodorant, etc., that it actually started feeling bad. I still have one last roll of dental floss waiting to be opened.

I probably can’t consider myself an average consumer, considering that in January I only used those gift cards I received, in February I spent about €150 on groceries and household supplies for the family, and it wasn’t until late March that my buying behavior started returning to normal.

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Repurposing urine in general might be worthwhile; a couple of days ago there was an article in Hesari about Sweden, where this is being trialed. (paywall: Stadionin pisuaarit kerÀÀvĂ€t virtsaa – tavoitteena korvata tuontilannoitteita | HS.fi )

“According to [Professor] VinnerĂ„s, urine contains all the nutrients that crops need. In theory, it could replace up to 30 percent of the synthetic fertilizers used in Sweden.”

“Urine collected at the Eleda Stadium is dried in closed containers, mixed with side streams from Oatly’s oat drink production—meaning oat-based fractions generated during production—and processed into pellets. The pellets that end up in oat fields resemble the granular fertilizer that farmers are already accustomed to handling.”

“The background of the entire project is the question of why we flush valuable nutrients down the drain while food production is dependent on imported fertilizers and fossil-based fertilizer production.”

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That’s not a bad deal if you use it on things you need anyway and that don’t expire. Like toilet paper (as long as it’s not the yellow kind) or, for example, sugar.

And if that amount of sugar doesn’t go down with normal use, you can always use it to make sugar wine (kilju). In anticipation of that, you can use some of the money to buy canisters like these, where you can store the brew during peacetime and water if things get tough.

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Astronauts are perhaps a larger group of urine recyclers. But indeed, peeing outside is a convenient way to fertilize yard plants. One’s own urine is a relatively safe substance. If collecting larger quantities, storing it for six months before use destroys harmful compounds, etc.

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These bring to mind the annual videos of “Polish Markku” (Oroco, Voxtur, Adoro), who is often criticized even on this forum, where the guy always reminds viewers that in small caps, you will ALWAYS take a massive hit at some point when the share price goes down the drain. People who join during a bull market chasing sudden multi-baggers might not necessarily handle it when those portfolio stocks drop, say, -70%.

And you can’t really prepare for it by reading books or other investors’ experiences, because you only see it in a real-life situation when losses start accumulating—whose head can handle being a small-cap investor. And of course, there’s nothing wrong with that. Not everyone can be a boxer, and for other types of people, something like clay pigeon shooting with a shotgun might be a better fit, as in that sport, there’s no risk of the clay pigeon punching you in the nose :cowboy_hat_face:

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Summer vacation starts now, nearly 5 weeks in a row! :sun_with_face: :sunglasses: :beer_mug:

To celebrate the start of my vacation, I bought two new pairs of jeans, the same brand and model as my old ones. I was happy to notice that I can forget about the W33 waist size; from now on, it’s W32. It’s hard to say if that three-year extreme sugar avoidance plays a part, but this “shrinking” feels good. More than 10 years ago, my waist was size W34, so the direction is slow but definitely right. :flexed_biceps:

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