Inderes Coffee Room (Part 11)

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Yeah, I get it. :slight_smile:

For example, Poor Things is a film I wouldn’t dare recommend to someone whose taste in films I don’t know at all, even though I enjoyed watching it myself. It’s easier to recommend classics with a higher “hit rate.” :slight_smile:

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double-edged sword

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The oil market’s fluctuations may continue and continue


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It’s just a basic kitchen renovation, nothing special to note.

Regards, Petteri Tiili

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That was a good write-up. A flower of empathy :sunflower: even though this will probably be banned as a contentless post.

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Let me go back to yesterday’s T-shirt discussion, but change the garment to a collared shirt. As a Marimekko shareholder, I’ve seriously started considering buying a Jokapoika shirt. It would also be a kind of return to my roots, because as I’ve mentioned before, Erkki Sinkko was my Finnish teacher in high school :slightly_smiling_face:.

The shirt is quite pricey, normally 195 euros, but now it’s 30% off for loyalty program members for another week, making it 136.50 euros. The thing is, I’m not used to paying over a hundred euros for my shirts, and this time the color choice has to be just right, because I’m not planning on buying half a dozen of them :slightly_smiling_face:. Of course, receiving dividends from the company somewhat alleviates my natural fear of whether I’d be paying too much just for the brand!?

Does anyone have experience with this shirt, and is it more durable than shirts in a slightly lower price range!?

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This is also a kind of user experience, as I once tried on the shirt in question and concluded that even a FjĂ€llrĂ€ven tent would fit better. Everyone has their own preferences, of course, but after a couple of tries, I’ve concluded that I would never buy a straight-cut collared shirt.

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This thing about t-shirts came to mind, I meant to reply earlier.

The main point here is that cheap can be quite good, but over time the difference shows in durability and fabric. It’s “pointless” to pay for really expensive ones, so here too, it’s about finding the golden mean. :slight_smile: Well, matters of taste


How do you recognize a quality t-shirt? Anyone can pull out the product description, the fabric label sewn into the garment, which tells you what and where the garment was made. In the hands of an expert, however, it’s only a small part of quality control.

Non-fiction author Rinna SaramÀki and clothing rental founder Kaisa HÀrmÀlÀ take the task seriously. When professionals who have dedicated their careers to scrutinizing clothing quality and supporting sustainable development are presented with three different t-shirts, a laboratory-like precise work begins. On a dark autumn morning, they ask for more light so that even the smallest details of the white fabric pieces emerge.

First, the yarn directions and the neckline rib are examined. After that, the hem seam and side seams are evaluated: loosely sewn, sparse side seams indicate that the settings of the fast fashion chain’s sergers have not been quite right.

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I’ve noticed that in Finland, it’s generally automatically assumed that code is produced in consulting firms (or perhaps by freelancers) for an external client. This simultaneously amuses and appalls me; are there really so few software product companies in this country that they aren’t seen as primary workplaces for coders? I think it’s a waste that our nation’s most brilliant engineers are employed by glorified temporary staffing agencies (=IT service sector) to make widgets for public launches and the digital leaps of machine shops. Well, the taxation of employee stock options in this country is so completely broken that it doesn’t even encourage taking any risks in a product startup anyway, so those generic consulting firms found on every street corner are probably quite safe and OK employers.

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You hit the nail on the head! I also wonder how much software is made by largely outsourced people, not in-house, in companies that call themselves tech firms.

And I understand that if you need to speed things up, you get extra hands for execution, but outsourcing a lead developer to make technology choices and architecture, etc. I just can’t grasp that logic.

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Well, we have Tieto, which now claims to be a software product company. How many Finnish software architects do they have? And Relex, how many people work there? What other big ones do we have?

The coders at IT consulting firms are mostly in India. And now we’re talking about these IT giants operating in Finland.

For 20 years, I’ve tried to explain to IT directors of large companies operating in Finland that they should have their own software department. Always the same answer: “Headquarters said that outsourced Indian labor is cheaper.” Yes, it is, and my team cleans up their messes at many times the price. What a strange world. Those IT directors are human and make the same mistakes over and over again. But I think this is changing. Thanks, AI.

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It would be quite sad if Finns’ understanding of a software production company was Tieto.

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Okay, Tieto is perhaps 30-40% a product company. But couldn’t these be labeled as software product companies?:
Qt Group, Admicom, LeadDesk, Tecnotree, F-Secure, Basware, M-Files, Relex, Aiven, Smartly, Supercell, Remedy, and other gaming companies.

But there really aren’t many of them. There are more consulting companies than software companies on the Helsinki Stock Exchange. Something needs to be done about this. More ambition, dear colleagues!

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YLE has started to report more on Finnish small-cap investors.

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Now people have misunderstood, Kalmar has a dividend payment date, not an ex-dividend date.

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PETRI ROININEN TO STEP DOWN AS CEO OF INVESTORS HOUSE AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING ON APRIL 14, 2026

AS A SHAREHOLDER, I CONSIDER IT IMPORTANT THAT THE NEW CEO ALSO ADOPTS THIS PROVEN COMMUNICATION METHOD AND CONTINUES TO ACTIVELY INFORM NASDAQ ABOUT THE COMPOSITION OF THE VANTAA CITY BOARD AND THE CENTRE PARTY’S PROGRAM

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I’m really looking forward to hearing Verneri’s opinion on Revenio’s acquisition, as I know he’s aware that the market also knows that, on average, large acquisitions fail.

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Coincidentally, I just commented on the matter in the Revenio thread in general terms. Juha can comment on the deal himself as an analyst. I’ll just grimace when I look at the statistics on the matter. :smiley:

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One can well understand the “dividend man’s” grimace. The stock price has fallen more today more than the combined dividends for 2023, 2024, and 2025. And with your hands tied in terms of selling due to the recommendation, or did you even have Revenio in your portfolio?

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