One has to admit, looking at Google’s STOCK performance, that investing doesn’t have to be very difficult.
I myself bought a HUGE position in Google early this year around the 168€ mark. Luckily, I then got too scared and lightened the position to a MODERATE one. Otherwise, I’d already have to put 98E in the Ferrari tank instead of 95.
My company analysis was simply that I concluded Gemini is such a good basic product to replace their normal
How about a new program format for InderesTV from this? Analyst vs. chairman of the board or whoever from the company wants to take on such a challenge So, a proper verbal boxing match about the analyst’s forecasts, the company’s future, and of course, the most important thing, the target price!
I conducted a study based on strong scientific data:
Comparison of Addick’s annual investment returns while employed / unemployed over the years
Data consists of annual returns from Nordnet’s portfolio (my main portfolio 2009-2020) and youthful recollections:
During the years of full-time employment 2015-2024, the average annual return was: +7.06%
When comparing this to the years 2009-2014 and 2025, which include military service, studies, and current stay-at-home dad life, the annual return in the ‘unemployed’ mode has been +19.72%. This includes the year 2011, which marks the deepest trough in that measurement history for the benchmark index OMXH with an annual return of -27.38%.
As part of my scientific study’s hypothesis, I claim: past investment returns correlate 100% with future investment returns.
A return difference of approximately 12.7 percentage points means that, economically and mathematically, it is no longer worthwhile for me to go to work.
The conclusion of my scientific(!) study states that wealthy Finns face a clear incentive trap, which is why a millionaire tax should be implemented immediately.
Thank you for attending the presentation of the study and familiarizing yourselves with the matter!
(note! this message contains no lifestyle advice or humor.)
That was an excellent article! I’ve noticed the same: CEOs are great marketers and can easily talk listeners into a daze. You summarized things well; this gave me good insights regarding management.
Sorry about that, but for me, it’s quite difficult to find a silver lining in this news. The company’s current board is certainly trying to do everything to prevent the de-listing, but in my estimation, they would rather be behind bars than have the de-listing canceled.
However, everyone should make their own assessment of the situation, and these views have no impact on the share price or anyone’s investment decisions, as trading is halted.
I was visiting for the first time myself and it was surprisingly good! Marianne’s and Sauli’s presentations were good, and at the Inderes stand, I also chatted for a long time with several Inderes people. Thanks for the good discussions!
Note, however, that there is still work to be done in popular capitalism. There could have been more younger people; unfortunately, a significant portion of the event audience was grey-haired. Of course, the event day and content during working hours probably inevitably limited the audience.
Often we, the slightly older ones, are told (I am, of course, still very youthful) how the new generation is much smarter and wiser than us. Therefore, it would be interesting to know what the current age distribution is among those participating in investment discussions on Shareville, Kauppalehti, or here.
Reading investment discussions from various sources, one cannot avoid associations with the discussions from the AP-areena era. There too were dedicated investors who for years believed that the half-dead Benefon would rise to new glory. Later, the Wincapitalists could not believe they had invested in a scam, and the state took their money, as otherwise they would have owned the entire country.
Now, a similar spirit of fervor can be observed in the discussion concerning Intellego on Shareville, and it seems to have partly landed here as well. The company’s assets have been seized on false grounds, too harsh measures have been used, small shareholders are suffering, no conclusive evidence has been presented, etc.
I return to the original question: Is it the boomers fueling this discussion, or the smarter and wiser new generation?
These constantly appear on the forum. Hyzon, Harvia, Smart Eye, Solteq, Voxtur, Intellego, Faron, and so on. Every year, some stock takes off or gains cult status for some other reason, and large masses get excited about the opportunity to multiply their money quickly, making the situation easily hysterical. The performers, acts, and audience change, but the circus doesn’t stop; it always continues with new, fresher eyes and wads of cash. And when the wild price increases experienced by true believers also go to their heads, it’s rare to be completely honest with oneself when the castles in the air later collapse.
At the latest, in a few decades, we will experience another completely absurd bubble, and then the financial media will seriously make us believe that AI quantum monkey pictures or some similar absurdities are the winning investment target of the future. An investor cannot really do anything but adapt to the environment as best as possible and try to take the prevailing zeitgeist into account in their investment decisions.
Well, yes, but for example, in the case of Intellego, there is already more evidence of a clear scam than just suspicions, just like with Wincapita. At that point, the most fanatical ones start inventing conspiracy theories, even if the evidence is slapped in their face.
In my opinion, pure euphoria occurs significantly more often than the ability to accept the “truth” of one’s investment’s total failure. According to what I’ve read, many still believe, for example, regarding Talvivaara, that the state stole the money from small investors.
These are always found. What’s common is that those threads get a hell of a lot of “positive” messages that have no content. They are almost never flagged. If I, as a “bear,” were to throw such messages, they would be flagged immediately, because there are many more bulls following the thread.
Go check out the Kamux thread from around 2020-2022. There, Kamux’s competitive advantage was compared to S-Group and Kesko! Also, used products should be sold at zero margin to gain market share… The SSH thread had the exact same denial, that this company is outrageously overvalued. Analyst estimates were not received very warmly. It’s just about to start selling like a pike from the reeds.
Here on the forum, there are only a few writers who, for some reason, bother to invest in “quality” bear writing, and props to them for that. I myself read that Intellego thread a little over a month ago, and it seemed like Wirecard, and I wrote about it here in the coffee room as well. I haven’t opened a single quarterly report of the company, as I’m not interested. So I don’t bother to write anything in the company thread. There are 50 bulls there who think they know more about the company, and their money is tied up in the company. Mine isn’t, I just follow for entertainment.