Inderes.fi content development ideas

Yeah, it’s not an impossible task, I’ll definitely try out an alternative Inderes voice as early as this week. :+1:

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Is it okay to give feedback regarding the Inderes app here as well?

For yours truly, at least, the queue view is hidden in a place that is way too difficult to find. You can certainly push items into the queue via the three dots using “Add to queue” or similar, which is useful when heading out for a run, for example, but I couldn’t find a view anywhere to see what has been added to the queue (so I could check if the added amount is enough for the duration of the planned run :smiley: ).

Am I already at the age where I don’t know how to use these youth apps anymore, or has that queue function been left somehow unfinished?

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And here we go again. Today, by popular demand, the reader is AI-@Juha_Kinnunen (cloned via ElevenLabs). Today, I also tried to automatically generate a short summary of the entire morning review.

Inderes Morning Review Spoken 2024-08-21

Morning Review in almost a minute - AI summary read by Juha

Taaleri Q2’24: Company available below sum-of-the-parts value

Riksbanken beat the majors to a rate cut again

Anora Q2’24: Slowly improving

Netum Q2’24: Good performance expected to continue for the rest of the year

Witted Q2’24: The stride is starting to hit the board

Revenio acquires Dutch AI software company Thirona Retina

Engineering companies: Services leading the way to order growth

Rush Factory H1’24 Preview: Early-year event tour remained too small

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This was surprisingly good, by the way! It’s nice to hear such a concise summary of companies you don’t follow more closely, so you can hear if there’s any major news that might pique your interest to research further. Keep this going! :+1: :+1:

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This worked much better for me than, for example, Brian. Thanks :folded_hands:. I don’t know how much work it would take to develop this further so that each analyst’s voice would be used for the companies they follow, or the macro comment would be in Marianne’s voice? In any case, Juha’s voice suited this well :+1:

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This works really well! Juha’s soothing voice always feels good in the earbuds :smiley: The pronunciation also sounds better than in the previous ones. Agreed, that morning review in almost a minute is a very good concept for busy mornings :+1:

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I think this audio format is great, and even at this stage, I’d like to suggest that, for example, the “morning review in almost a minute” or even all these audio clips could be made available on Spotify, similar to the FT News Briefing. Perhaps the comments could be provided as a single audio file—it’s not practical for anyone to have, for example, 15 separate audio clips to listen to on any given morning. AI can likely generate timestamps for the comments easily if someone specifically wants to listen to a comment about a certain company. Personally, however, I think the point of the morning review is to follow (at least at a headline level) almost all the companies on the Helsinki Stock Exchange. So, I personally support having one audio file on Spotify every morning containing all the Morning Review (Aamukatsaus) comments. Great concept!

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My reaction:

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Thank you for the feedback!

PS. Just a quick update: the voice generation for the Morning Review is slightly delayed. Today we planned to try another Inderes voice, but it’s proving quite difficult to produce long-form audio content without AI hallucinations while still capturing the speaker’s unique style, so that the speech isn’t just a monotonous drone. If it doesn’t work out within the next couple of hours, I’ll use a pre-made voice instead, and we might return to this specific Inderes voice later.

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Today, only a summary was released, read by AI-@Verneri_Pulkkinen. There are some oddities in this one as well, but it will have to do for today. I learned many practical lessons along the way about training and the behavior of such a model; apparently, the training data I fed into the model was too varied. Or perhaps Vepu is the kind of speaker that you just can’t copy with AI that easily.. :smiley:

Inderes morning review spoken 2024-08-22

Approximately one-minute AI summary

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@Yu_Gong

Could we get a bit more margin between the last thread in the list and the “113 unread” text? I keep making accidental taps constantly when I try to press that “X unread” part.

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Markus has really hijacked this thread for audio experiments, so sorry a few messages have gone unnoticed.

Yeah, glad you mentioned it @Pohjolan_Eka! Our forum host’s background work has caused some disruptions, so we’re investigating it with them to minimize similar errors in the future.

I completely agree with you @Vara-Paavi! We have a major overhaul of the company page starting this autumn (better navigability, clearer key information, foundation for future sections, etc.), and we intend to collect feedback here on the forum regarding that. So we are aiming to react to the feedback :blush:

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Today we’re using a standard voice, Matilda from ElevenLabs as the reader. Thanks for the comments and discussion so far! :+1: Keep telling us what you think, how you use or would use it, and what should be changed.


Inderes Spoken Morning Review 2024-08-23

Approximately one-minute AI summary

Orthex Q2’24: Carefree progress

Honkarakenne H1’24: Market takes a gap year

Merus Power H1’24: Upward-trending outlook for the rest of the year

Fondia Q2’24: Headwinds making progress difficult

Alexandria H1’24: Confidence in earnings level increased

Titanium H1’24: Visibility for the rest of the year remains weak

Asuntosalkku Q3’24: Supported by strengthened outlook for interest rate cuts

Spinnova H1’24: Expecting a push forward late in the year

Partnera H1’24: A fairly expected set of results

Solteq Q2’24: Earnings turnaround must accelerate in the second half of the year

Herantis H1’24: Next study phase to start as expected in H2

Meriaura Group Q2’24: Stable outlook, expensive earnings-based valuation

UPM: Pulp production restricted at Kymi and Kaukas mills

Faron H1’24 preview: Funding pitfalls behind, research results ahead

Loihde Q2’24 preview: Clear profitability improvement expected from a weak comparison period

Arvo Sijoitusosuuskunta H1’24 preview: First half of the year has remained quiet

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Here are also some broader greetings from our team :wave: This week, a couple of developers returned from vacation and a new team member also started, so we’re getting back up to speed with almost the full team!

:sunny: What we’ve released during the summer

  • Improved login flow for new users - making it easier to both subscribe to the newsletter and follow companies.
  • Steps towards shutting down the old site - this is one of our main drivers at the moment. We’re adding missing background functionalities (e.g., role management, press release identification, and model portfolio events) so we can get rid of the old site and focus solely on the new platform. Unfortunately, these aren’t visible to users as direct benefits, but as technical debt decreases, we’ll be able to develop new features faster :blush:
  • UI improvements & bug fixes - e.g., the Screener should work now (thanks @Vanerihands for the feedback) and broken CSS styles on mobile have finally been fixed.

:sun_behind_large_cloud: Currently in the works

  • Continuing the shutdown of the old site - aiming to get the biggest loose ends tied up this autumn.
  • Improved stock market page - Work already began in the summer to ensure the page has all the essential features, including a renewed chart, clearer structure, news feed, etc.
  • Smaller user requests - e.g., requested adjusted figures (P/E, EV/EBIT) for stock comparison and a filter for the analysis page (thanks for the request @Savon_Ruhtinas).

:fallen_leaf: In the works over the coming months

  • Updated market page
  • Development of the redesigned company page has started
  • Other user requests

Thanks to everyone for the requests and ideas, keep them coming freely and without hesitation :pray:

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Today we’re testing a slightly different backend setup, and this time it’s a 50% cheaper and significantly faster model from ElevenLabs. At least initially, I haven’t noticed much of a difference compared to previous experiments. Today’s voice is Sarah from the ElevenLabs voice library.


Inderes Morning Review Audio 2024-08-26

Approximately one-minute AI summary

Optomed In-depth Report: On the verge of great opportunities

A week of gains behind us, the Fed is no longer holding back

United Bankers H1’24: From performance fees to record results

Digital Workforce Q2’24: Better growth outlook

Aiforia H1’24 preview: Fruits of sales work visible on the growing top line

Wetteri’s negative profit warning matched our expectations

Second exit within a week in Springvest’s portfolio

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It’s a bit of a shame that in a thread where you can post every 30 minutes, you can’t edit your previous post? Wouldn’t it be much more efficient than having to write a new post in the same thread? :thinking:

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Really interesting feature!

Could the forecast data be saved and a ”forum’s best analyst” ranking be maintained..?

Recruitment channel? :wink:

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Morning Review Audio Aug 27, 2024

Today’s reader is Daniel from ElevenLabs. Regarding the number changes, we are experimenting with a slightly different background model and a more refined prompt.

AI summary of approximately one minute

Faron H1’24 quick comment: Costs lower than our expectations

Why is Powell no longer concerned?

Betolar H1’24 quick comment: Savings measures took effect, but commercialization progressed slower than our expectations

Loihde Q2’24 quick comment: Two-sided development in line with expectations

BBS: Share issue to finalize the CE marking process

FDA Fast Track status for Faron’s bexmarilimab

Wetteri Q2’24 preview: Growth is significant, but focus turns to profitability

Solwers H1’24 preview: We expect inorganic growth and fairly stable operational performance

Pallas Air’s change negotiations seem like a step in the right direction to strengthen profitability

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Great! Could you also add the Q4 forecast to that, so we can get the consensus estimates for the full year?

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Thanks Mikael for the shout-out! I’ll provide a concise answer in this thread; mods can move these messages to development ideas if they’d like :slight_smile:

Hmm yeah, that’s a good point! Currently, it actually shows H1 and H2 figures, but the headings are incorrect (the H1 result is reported at Q2, etc.). I’ve inquired with Pinpoint about whether business reviews (Q1, Q3) could also be added, which would make forecasting more meaningful. This issue only pertains to smaller companies, as larger ones usually have all quarters available.

Good question! We had a forecasting competition for Kamux over the summer, and the plan was to hold something similar during the Q3 earnings season :medal_sports:

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