Carvana (CVNA) - The Amazon of Car Sales?

Should have opened this earlier and @jaska1 has been pushing so much that we’re getting it started :wink:

So Carvana (Ticker CVNA) is a US company that sells 100% used cars online. I myself have been on board with Carvana as a shareholder for quite some time and have followed the company’s development through that.

What, in my opinion, makes Carvana an interesting investment target?

-They are disrupting the huge used car market, which is extremely fragmented

-Used cars are sold for almost 900 billion annually in the United States, and the largest seller’s market share (October 2020 data) was only a few percent!

-Most car sales are done traditionally in physical dealerships, but online purchasing is growing at a significant pace

-Carvana’s vision is to revolutionize this rigid structure and become the leading car dealer of the digital age, built purely on the terms of the digital world

-Carvana offers a unique buying experience where you buy online, and Carvana delivers your car to your doorstep within a week at the latest. In the meantime, the car has been inspected and examined at Carvana’s own vehicle inspection center. The buyer has a free return policy for the purchase.

-In the United States, car dealerships do not have a very good reputation. Many people hate going to dealerships and fear being scammed. The ability to buy online, knowing the car has been inspected, and being able to return it removes many friction points for the buyer.

-Carvana has grown very rapidly for several years, at over 100% growth rate, although in 2020, that pace won’t quite be reached, especially due to the effects of corona in Q2. But in Q4, it’s very possible that we will return to or get close to that triple-digit growth rate.

-I believe that 2020 will be, in a way, the definitive breakthrough year for Carvana. The coronavirus pandemic has also made buying cars online mainstream, and there is no return to the old ways in sight.

-Carvana is progressing well in virtually all metrics. Of course, the company’s operations are not yet profitable, but there’s a reason for this; the desire has been to invest in future growth rather than optimizing current results.

-Carvana’s model is to proceed market area by market area and continuously increase the number of available cars locally. A crucial part of this is building inspection centers (Inspection Center) regionally, through which customers can be better served.

-Furthermore, these investments create a moat against other competitors who cannot guarantee buyers the quality of cars and the crucial trust that the car they buy has been inspected and reconditioned. This removes one significant friction point from the buying experience.

-Over the next 1-2 years, I believe Carvana will continue to expand into new areas, open more inspection points, invest more in the entire buying experience, and build nationwide brand recognition.

-The company’s founder and CEO, Ernest Garcia III, is a passionate advocate for customer centricity. This is evident in everything the company does and how it operates.

-Garcia himself has a lot of “skin in the game”; he owns 600 million Carvana shares (Yesterday’s closing price was 261 dollars, so a considerable stake is at play
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-Carvana’s valuation is by no means in the bargain bin. Market capitalization yesterday was 44 billion, and for example, P/S is around a good 20. But I approach this investment case using Brian Feroldi’s and Mats Christiansen’s thinking model: is the company in a market with a huge TAM, and can the company grow for years, even decades, and be a leading player in that market?

I see this as very possible for Carvana, and this is just in the United States; it is, of course, possible to expand in the future, for example, to Europe or even initially to Canada. But the company has consistently stated that the focus is now entirely on the United States, which is sensible because the market is indeed huge and very fragmented. Even the toughest competitors, like VRoom, fit in there well. Additionally, growth options include expanding the product range, for example, by including insurance; however, the company itself has not said anything about this, it’s just my own thinking.

Following this are a bunch of different materials for you to check out if Carvana interests you. I especially recommend listening to Mads Christiansen’s Carvana Q3 earnings review. Mads explains the long-term potential and what kind of moats are currently being built very well.

A week-old interview, Ernie talks about the goal of selling 2 million cars, with subtle hints of triple-digit growth in Q4 between the lines

Ernie’s interview on CNBC after Q3 earnings

Carvana’s latest investor presentation

Carvana’s Q3 earnings data:

Carvana is featured in this podcast discussing Internet business models and building scale. A really good podcast overall; Parameswaran has a strong track record, being one of the first investors in Bytedance (TikTok), among others.

https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes/22392883/parameswaran-internet-scale-businesses

A few excerpts from the investor presentation at the end:

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Vaikuttaa kyllÀ hyvÀlle firmalle. Harmi, ettÀ myös hintakin on kasvanut.

https://shift.com/buy

TÀssÀ myös minipulju, joka ei ainakaan vielÀ pÀrjÀÀ Carvanalle, mutta on myös murto-osa hinnasta. Lokakuussa kÀsittÀÀkseni tullut pörssiin mergerin kautta. Asiakaskokemukset myös kÀsittÀÀkseni hÀviÀÀ Carvanalle. Nostan kuitenkin tÀmÀn tÀhÀn, niin voi halutessa tutkia kilpailijoita.

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TÀssÀ podissa myös sivutaan Carvanaa business casena. Kamux disruptioi markkinoita, mutta Carvanan liiketoimintamalli on potenssiin^2.

Kun aikanaan rantautuvat eurooppaan, niin siinÀ on Kamux lirissÀ siinÀ missÀ muutkin toimijat. MielestÀni Kamux tekee oikeita asioita, mutta vÀhÀn turhan varovaisesti.

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Carvanaa tuskin nÀhdÀÀn vielÀ vuosiin Euroopassa, sen verran paljon on tuota markkinaa vielÀ Yhdysvalloissa jÀljellÀ valloitettavaksi. Ja varmaan jos tÀnne tulevat niin yritysostojen avulla :smirk: Euroopassahan aika sama tilanne eli ala on edelleen ÀÀrimmÀisen fragmentoitunut.

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Carvana vÀlttelee franchise liiketoimintamallia kuin ruttoa, eli perinteisten toimijoiden myyjÀt ja liikkeet tuskin kiinnostavat ostokohteena.

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Kiitokset ketjun avaamisesta! Markkinahan on todella fragmentoitunut ja kasvua voi olla luvassa todella pitkÀn aikaa. Hintalappu on tÀllÀ hetkellÀ kohtuu suolainen, mutta kun ottaa huomioon nuo kasvunÀkymÀt, kokonaismarkkinat ja perustaja tj:n suuren omistuksen niin pitÀÀ kyllÀ ottaa tÀmÀ seurantaan.

LisÀksi jaahaksen mainitseman Shiftin itselle tuli mieleen myös toinen vastaavanlainen spacin kautta markkinoille tullut yritys Carlotz $LOTZ CarLotz, Inc. (LOTZ) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance.
Todella paljon pienempi toimija, vain 8 toimipistettÀ. https://investors.carlotz.com/

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Tuokin on mielenkiintoinen nosto. Otin yhtiön esityksestÀ muutaman otteen tuohon:

Otin tuosta esitykstÀ muutamia kuvia, kun hyvin sopii muutenkin ketjuun. Carvana on kyllÀ selvÀsti alan timantti, mutta muissakin voi olla potentiaalia. Mielenkiintoista miten Carvanan gross profit per unit on jÀÀtÀvÀ verrattuna muihin. Ja sitten Carlotzin asiakashankinta noin paljon halvempaa?

Ihan en suoraan noita lukuja kyllÀ usko, mutta jotain suuntaa antavat.

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HyvÀ löytö! Noita muita en tunne riittÀvÀn hyvin ettÀ osaisin arvioida asemaa ja laatua. Mutta lÀhestyn sitÀ kautta miten Carvana tuntuu lÀhestyvÀn. Ernie Garcia sanoi tuossa Yahoo Financen haastattelussa viime viikolla:

-MeidÀn tavoite on myydÀ 2 miljoonaa autoa vuodessa
-Viime vuonna Carvana myi 170k autoa, tÀnÀ vuonna varmaan noin 250k, ehkÀ vÀhÀn enemmÀn
-NykymÀÀrÀstÀ siis tavoite nostaa myyntiÀ n 10X
-Koko kÀytettyjen autojen markkinassa JenkeissÀ myydÀÀn 40 miljoonaa autoa vuodessa
-Eli Carvanan 10X casella heidÀn markkinaosuus olisi vain n. 5%!

Summa summarum=

digitaaliset kauppiaat eivÀt lÀhtökohtaisesti kilpaile vielÀ toisiaan vastaan vaan pÀinvastoin auttavat kÀÀntÀmÀÀn kuluttajakÀyttÀytymistÀ fyysisistÀ liikkeistÀ netistÀ ostamiseen. Siksi nÀenkin ettÀ kasvua tulee riittÀmÀÀn useammalle yritykselle vielÀ pitkÀksi aikaa.

Jaahas unohdetaanko tÀnkin suhteen kohta fundamenttien miettiminen :joy_cat:

https://twitter.com/dieseldog97/status/1351068696085721088

Edit: Laitetaan Kamux ketjusta @Arimatti_Alhanko postaus Carvanaan ja Vroomiin liittyen.

Samalla nostetaan @Verneri_Pulkkinen laittama juttu Arimatin viestin ylÀpuolelta autokaupan verkkoon siirtymisestÀ. Lukusuositus!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2020-10-25/the-coronavirus-pandemic-is-dramatically-changing-the-way-we-buy-cars

Kannattaa myös selailla vaikkapa haun avulla Kamux ketjua lÀpi, siellÀ on silloin tÀllöin sivuttu myös Carvanaa ja kilpailijoita.

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Uusia markkinoita avautuu taas, tÀnÀÀn melkoinen tykitys noita :+1:

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TÀnÀÀn julkaistu taas pari uutta aluetta johon laajennutaan. HyvÀ vauhti pÀÀllÀ :+1:

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Laitetaanpa tÀmÀ myös Carvanan ketjuun, henkilökuntaa hienosti tuotu mukaan omistukseen, kiitos löydöstÀ @Arimatti_Alhanko

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Kovan kalibeerin osallistujakaarti tÀssÀ webinaarissa, Carvanan TJ mukana myös:

In 2 month’s time our Reuters Events: Automotive Retail 2021 (April 12-13) event will go live.

What makes this meeting so unique is that it unites board level executives from global automakers, USAs largest dealerships and those digital dealership disrupters. This is the only meeting that you will find board level speakers from Ford, to CarMax and Carvana.

Registration is now live: Review our pass options and live agenda here https://reutersevents.com/events/automotiveretail/register.php

This online meeting will address and strategize the future customer experience and buying journey. This meeting is the one place for all your automotive retail news, updates, and benchmarks, uniting the most senior group of CEOs, CMOs, CDOs, strategy, CX and retail professionals.

Influential speakers include:

  • Elena Ford, Chief Customer Experience Officer, Ford Motor Company
  • Deborah Wahl, Global Chief Marketing Officer, General Motors
  • Bill Nash, President & CEO, CarMax
  • David W. Hult, President & CEO, Asbury Automotive Group
  • George Arison, CEO, Shift
  • Ernie Garcia,Chairman and CEO, Carvana

Please do share this with your peers, as this is not to be missed for those leading retail, marketing and experience.

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Kamux huuman keskellÀ Carvana raportoi myös tuloksensa. Kasvu jatkuu edelleen erittÀin vahvana, yli 60%. Edelleen odotetusti tappiolla mikÀ johtuu investoinneista. Carvana on nyt noussut USA:n toiseksi suurimmaksi kÀytettyjen autojen myyjÀksi 1.7% markkinaosuudella eli vielÀ riittÀÀ osuutta otettavaksi. TÀllÀ hetkellÀ kysyntÀÀ on enemmÀn kuin pystytÀÀn toimittamaan mikÀ on parempi ongelma kuin toisinpÀin :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Tossa vielÀ earnings call

Carvana Q4 2020 call.pdf (105,6 Kt)

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Mielenkiintoisia jo nÀmÀ spekulaatiot optionaalisuuksista jotka yrityksen johto on kyllÀ toistaiseksi aina kumonnut.

Adam Jonas at Morgan Stanley on Friday upgraded his rating on Carvana Co. stock to the equivalent of buy and with a price target of $420, from $225. The price target represents a 60% upside from recent share prices. Describing Carvana as “just a ‘used car dealer’ is like describing Amazon nearly two decades ago as just an online book seller,”

TÀssÀ vielÀ toimarin kommentit CNBC:lle.

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Laitetaan tÀhÀnkin ketjuun, kÀytettyjen autojen hinnat jyrkÀssÀ nousussa Yhdysvalloissa:

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Uusia markkinoita taas avattu, IR osasto pukkas sitten kerralla neljÀ uutta aluetta :printer:

Ensi viikolla sitten osari, muistaakseni torstaina. Q1 on varmasti erittÀin vahva, samoin tulee olemaan Q2 mutta sitten kiinnostaa erityisesti mitÀ sanotaan loppuvuodesta.

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