BYD Build Your Dreams, China's rising EV giant

Jussi Halme has made a video about Chinese car manufacturers. :slight_smile:

Chinese electric car manufacturers, such as BYD and Chery, are revolutionizing the automotive industry with unprecedented speed and agility. How have these companies risen to challenge Tesla and traditional car manufacturers? How are the European and US automotive industries reacting, and is there any hope left for the old giants? In this video, we delve into the reasons behind China’s electric car success and what it means for investors and consumers. Can the European automotive industry still be saved?

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HCP’s Kevin Ekstam has written an article about BYD that can be read in a few minutes. :slight_smile:

The global electric car market is heating up, and there’s a new, very strong contender in the game. Chinese BYD, an acronym for Build Your Dreams, has surpassed Tesla to become the world’s largest electric vehicle manufacturer. BYD embodies a style that combines the efficiency of mass production, technological expertise, and price competitiveness. However, BYD is not just a car company. It is a diversified company that manufactures batteries, solar panels, and components for everything from smartphones to buses.

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BYD announced it would compensate for damages if a collision occurs while BYD’s Auto-Parking “God’s Eye” is active. The compensation applies to Level 4 parking systems. And initially, only in China.

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Cars are already being dumped for under €7,000 – The world’s 2nd largest electric car company has run into severe problems, especially in Germany and China: Dozens of stores closed, over 300,000 cars stuck | Tekniikka&Talous

“BYD, or Build Your Dreams, is currently producing significantly more cars than it sells, reports Handelsblatt. At the end of May, over 340,000 cars were without a buyer. The inventory has grown larger than it was for the entire last year.”

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The question is, why? Why aren’t BYD’s cars suddenly selling? Is it due to the product, the market, or what? I haven’t really found a good analysis of this anywhere. At the same time, however, car dealers, at least in Europe, are reporting a (slowly) recovering car market.

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The news didn’t say they weren’t selling. BYD is selling more and more cars all the time, with YoY growth over 30%: Major Chinese automakers H1 2025 sales report: BYD and SAIC top 2 million units, Geely raises full-year targets
They are just producing even more than sales currently demand, meaning the conquest of the world won’t fail due to production bottlenecks, at least.

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The story below tells how BYD’s deliveries fell in July for the first time this year as the electric vehicle price war intensified. Li Auto and Nio also reported drops in deliveries, while Xpeng, Xiaomi, Leapmotor, and Aito significantly increased their deliveries.

"Key Points

  • Major Chinese electric vehicle makers, including BYD, Li Auto and Ni, reported a drop in July deliveries.
  • However, Xpeng shipped a record number of EVs in July.
  • There were also bright spots in Xiaomi, Leapmotor and Aito."

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/04/chinas-byd-posts-first-delivery-dip-in-2025-as-ev-price-war-bites.html

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The news below reports how BYD cut its 2025 sales target by 16 percent, indicating a slowdown in momentum.

Competition in China is intensifying, especially with Geely. Growth remains modest, production is being curbed, and sales of affordable models are faltering.

BYD has slashed its sales target for this year by as much as 16% to 4.6 million vehicles, two people with knowledge of the matter said, as the Chinese EV giant faces its slowest annual growth in five years and other signs that its era of record-setting expansion could be drawing to a close.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/04/chinas-byd-cuts-2025-sales-target-by-16percent-sources-say-a-sign-its-white-hot-growth-is-cooling.html

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The Chinese electric car giant is facing its slowest annual growth in five years and other signs that its era of record expansion may be coming to an end. BYD reported last week that its quarterly earnings fell by 30%, the first decline in over three years.

BYD has not explained its figures; according to Reuters, one reason is intensified competition from Geely Motors and Leapmotors, which, especially in China, produce affordable budget models, while Xiaomi is at the more expensive end. In Europe, BYD is building a factory in Szeged, Southern Hungary, which is initially designed for an annual capacity of 150,000 vehicles, with possibilities to expand capacity to 300,000 cars. However, information regarding the Hungarian factory staying on schedule is contradictory; it is expected to produce only a few tens of thousands of cars by 2026, and the total capacity will fall short of its targets.

Instead, BYD has accelerated the schedule for its Turkish factory, and its capacity is being increased. Turkey benefits from very cheap labor (which Toyota, Stellantis, VW, Ford, Hyundai, and Renault have previously noticed). With production in Turkey and Hungary, BYD avoids the current 27% EU tariff.

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The article below discusses, among other things, how Berkshire Hathaway has completely sold its stake in the Chinese electric car company BYD, in which it invested already in 2008 at the initiative of Charlie Munger.

The ownership had grown in value almost 40-fold before gradual sales that continued for a long time – the rest were sold in the spring of this year. The reasons for the sale were not precisely disclosed.

Buffett has not explained in detail why Berkshire started selling, but, in 2023, he told CNBC’s Becky Quick that BYD is an “extraordinary company” being run by an “extraordinary person,” but “I think that we’ll find things to do with the money that I’ll feel better about.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/21/buffett-munger-byd-exits-stake.html

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Berkshire sold its shares with a very good profit and probably at the right time.

It is difficult to get reliable information about BYD’s current situation, but discussions have increasingly suggested that BYD’s period of enormous growth is over. However, the company still holds, for example, an exclusive right granted by the Central Committee to important electric vehicle minerals in Tibet.

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BYD is reported to have reduced production at several of its factories.

The cuts have been made due to slowed car sales.

BYD’s average inventory at Chinese dealerships is 3.2 months, which is more than double the time compared to other Chinese car brands.

BYD is believed to have suspended plans to establish several new production lines.

Data from the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers has revealed that BYD’s average production in April and May 2025 was 29 percent lower than in the last quarter of 2024.

BYD was supposed to start electric car production at its Hungarian factory in October 2025. Now it seems that the start of production has been postponed by a year. Mass production of electric cars was supposed to start in Szeged, Hungary, but now there is talk of a few tens of thousands of electric cars per year. On the other hand, BYD has promised that the first BYD Dolphins will roll out of the factory in October, but this is not about mass production.

Instead, BYD has accelerated the schedule for its Turkish factory and added production lines there. This means mass production would be moving to Turkey, where labor is even cheaper.

The shift towards cheaper production in Turkey would highlight the challenge for Chinese automakers, as they want to build cars in Europe to avoid punitive tariffs but resist the region’s higher wages and energy costs.

The influence of the Chinese state is also evident in the production of Leapmotor cars brought to Europe by Stellantis. Production was indeed started at Stellantis’ Tychy factories in Poland. But production was halted because it was decided to move production to Zaragoza, Spain. The Spanish government, however, generously assisted the transfer with several hundred million. Industry insiders refer to Beijing’s quiet pressure on Chinese automakers to limit investments in countries that support the European Union’s tariff system for electric cars made in China. Poland was one of these countries, and the Polish Leapmotor project is reported to have fallen victim to a change in policy. The decision also highlights the delicate balance within Leapmotor International, a joint venture led by Stellantis. Stellantis holds a majority stake of 51%, but the influence of the Chinese partner remains evident in strategic decisions, such as the choice of production locations.

I emphasize that there are no facts, but rather speculations gathered from various sources. The hand of Beijing’s Central Committee is long.

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BYD stated that it has a backup plan if its access to Nvidia’s automotive chips is blocked “for some reason.”

Director Stella Li emphasized that China has not banned the use of the products and a ban is unlikely. Furthermore, BYD reportedly relies on its strong own technology and can quickly acquire alternative solutions if needed.

Li said BYD had not been told to stop using any Nvidia products, adding it was unlikely that Beijing would ban the U.S. firm’s auto chips.

“I don’t think any country will do that, because this automatic will kill Nvidia,” Li said. “So Nvidia now is the highest market value company, so if they lose the big market from China … nobody wants to see this.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/23/chinas-byd-says-it-has-a-backup-plan-if-cut-off-from-nvidia-chips.html

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Quite fast BYD EV 496 Km/h

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BYD myi elokuussa EU:ssa yli kolminkertaisesti autoja vuoden takaiseen verrattuna ja ohitti Teslan jo toista kuukautta putkeen.

Kokonaismarkkina kasvoi 5,3 prosenttia etenkin ladattavien hybridien ja sähköautojen vauhdittamana, ja Stellantis palasi vihdoin kasvuun yli vuoden tauon jälkeen.

Carmakers have ramped up PHEV sales to comply with emission standards with more affordable and more profitable cars than pure EVs. Chinese brands have also used the technology to minimise the impact of the European Union’s tariffs on Chinese-made EVs, and to win over China-skeptic European drivers.

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BYD is performing well, at least in terms of revenue, or has performed well. :slight_smile: Tesla, on the other hand, has been doing less great lately.

https://x.com/fiscal_ai/status/1972300301475676616


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BYD forecasts exports to grow to a fifth of sales this year with the help of new models.

In 2025, the company aims for 800,000 – 1 million deliveries outside China, with a total sales target of 4.6 million. In 2024, exports were just under 10 percent; I myself thought the number was much higher.

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Today, September car statistics were released. BYD’s monthly deliveries fell for the first time this year, by about 6% compared to the previous year, reinforcing concerns about a slowdown in electric vehicle demand.

However, the company maintained a market share of over 54%. At the same time, competitors such as Leapmotor, Xiaomi, Xpeng, and Nio broke new delivery records, driven by more affordable models and government subsidies.

"Key Points

  • BYD delivered 393,060 units in September, marking an almost a 6% decline year over year.
  • On the other hand, EV upstarts across the board set new monthly delivery records.
  • Li Auto rebounded from two consecutive months of sales below its usual 30,000 range."

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/02/byd-monthly-sales-tumble-for-the-first-time-in-2025-reinforcing-slowdown-concerns.html

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BYD is growing strongly in Britain; its sales grew by 880 percent last month, with over 11,000 cars sold.

In total, Britons have already bought 35,000 BYDs this year. Affordable models, such as the Dolphin, are popular, even though Chinese cars do not receive government support.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/06/byds-uk-sales-soar-880percent-making-it-the-ev-makers-largest-market-outside-china.html

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Apologies if this is old news, but I just noticed that Veho has started importing BYD :eyes:

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BYD’s stock rose after Tesla’s new, more affordable Model Y and Model 3 models no longer convinced investors, according to the story below.

Tesla only slightly lowered prices and its stock still fell, while BYD, on the other hand, attracts buyers with its cheaper cars; with its cars starting from about $11,000, and at the same time the company is rapidly expanding globally.

The lukewarm market reaction contrasts with BYD’s aggressive pricing strategy. The Chinese EV giant has introduced models like the Seagull, priced from $11,400, and has rapidly expanded its global presence.

https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/byd-shares-rise-as-teslas-lowcost-models-underwhelm-4276187