Auto1 Group, digital car trading without stores, Europe's No. 1

Yes, and the strategy clearly seems to be working, as profitability, brand awareness, and customer satisfaction are all growing simultaneously. With Italy, the tuning capacity would, if I recall correctly from my notes, be somewhere around 132,000 cars per year.

One can consider that if Autohero currently handles 15k+ cars per quarter, there’s room to tune more, so Autohero’s share should be increased as it seems to generate more money than the Merchant side. Consumers can then later be better sold additional financing, tires, etc., whatever else there might be…

Clearly, there’s no need to be desperate, nor to throw in the towel completely, or well, maybe one can fish it back out :smiley:
Cash balance of 640 million, debt-free.
Value around 1.8-2 billion, EV/Sales very low. Growth in sight, and money available to increase market share and improve profitability with Autohero, etc. It does, of course, burn cash at a commendable rate.

Nice percentage increase today… :smiley:

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Auto1 is also opening a reconditioning center in Belgium for 18k cars, and now the capacity is reportedly 132k cars/year.

This has improved profitability/Autohero car, so we are probably pleased.

Autohero’s sales last quarter were, if I remember correctly, 15.5k cars/3 months, so we can easily double sales with that capacity.

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AUTO1 Group SE: AUTO1 Group sells 163,500 units in Q3 2022

Berlin, 12 October 2022 – Today, AUTO1 Group publishes Q3 2022 unit sales and purchases.

AUTO1 Group sold 163,500 units in total in Q3, representing 4.5% year-over-year growth. Our platform continues to show strong momentum, outperforming the market by an estimated 25%, given a 20% decline in used car transactions[1] for July and August 2022 compared to the previous year. The Autohero Retail segment grew strongly with 52.1% more units sold year-over-year. The Merchant segment AUTO1.com, the largest B2B trading platform for used cars in Europe, sold 146,350 vehicles to partner dealers.

n. 3k autoa vähemmän myyty kuin q2 2022.

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Let’s revive this thread. Q2 earnings are out. The number of cars sold continued to decline, as did revenue. The positive was an improved GPU. Guidance remained roughly the same.

Full package below:

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It’s interesting to follow Auto1’s journey from the sidelines; I used to hold some shares back in the day, though not anymore.
What puzzles me is the car dealership portal side… there are quite few cars on offer, and even fewer that one would actually want to buy. It feels like it’s either full of junk or then so expensive that you can get them cheaper on the open market.

Q4/23


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I listened to the earnings call. Analysts seemed disappointed with the 2024 revenue guidance. Management reassured regarding long-term growth prospects and targets, but regarding 2024, they commented more that they want to achieve a controlled balance between growth and improving profitability. The market had clearly expected better growth guidance, judging by the share price reaction.

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Q1 luvut ulos tänään ja hyvältä näyttää. Takaisin kasvu-uralle ja kannattavuus paranee edelleen. Markkinoillekin maistui :chart_with_upwards_trend:

AUTO1 Group reports highest ever profitability and strong growth

Berlin, May 8, 2024 – AUTO1 Group SE, Europe’s leading digital automotive platform for buying and selling used cars, today reported strong financial results for the first quarter of 2024, delivering its highest ever adjusted EBITDA, record gross profit and strong growth.

Result Highlights for the quarter

  • Best-ever adjusted EBITDA of EUR 17.0 million, an improvement of EUR 42.1 million compared to Q1 2023
  • Record gross profit of EUR 162.9 million, up 23% year over year
  • Units sold grew to 163,766, up 4% year over year, driven by strong C2B unit growth
  • C2B units sold grew to 132,516, up 10% year over year
  • Record Merchant gross profit of EUR 129.1 million, up 21% year over year
  • Merchant gross profit per unit of EUR 881, up 15% year over year
  • Record Retail gross profit of EUR 33.8 million, up 35% year over year
  • Retail gross profit per unit of EUR 1,956, up 45% year over year
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Greetings to this quiet thread. I’m waking up past, present, and perhaps future owners because it would be interesting to hear what others following the company think about its future.

I’ve been following the company for a few quarters now and took a small tracking position around the time of the Q4 earnings report. After Q1, I’ve slowly started adding a bit below €7, as I still can’t see the company as being expensive. Q2 is traditionally slightly weaker for the company than Q1, which might provide an opportunity to fish for even lower prices, but since Q3 is a stronger quarter again, I decided to start long-term accumulation already.

I calculated the company’s valuation level and got an EV/Sales multiple of about 0.33 at the current price. In my opinion, the figure is still on the low side even after the bounce caused by Q1, but it likely reflects the fatigue from the long post-IPO slump, slow revenue growth, and the fact that margins in the industry don’t seem to be great, as the firm hasn’t broken even (saanut päätä pinnalle) yet even with an annual revenue of €5.5 billion.

As I see it, however, the company is taking the right and determined steps toward profitability, which has been improving bit by bit over the years. Personally, I’d dare to expect the first profitable quarter by next year at the latest.

I also quickly reviewed the EV/Sales multiple of its “cousin from across the pond,” Carvana, which has fluctuated annually between 0.59 and even over three. I don’t believe Auto1 will reach anywhere near one anytime soon, but Carvana’s 2022 EV/Sales of 0.59 would already imply a share price of about €15 with current sales. My investment case relies both on the approach toward profitability and the resulting normalization of the valuation level. I also don’t believe falling interest rates will at least hurt sales.

What worries me most is the slow revenue growth, which I interpret to mean that moving “tire kicking” online doesn’t happen overnight, even though growth through Autohero is currently the fastest to capture. Fortunately, profitability has improved despite the slow revenue growth, and as I understand it, we haven’t yet seen the full tailwind from the financing services offered by the company, so I see more reason for optimism here.

Just for fun, I also looked through the target prices of five bank analysts, and they range between €6.3 and €13 after Q1, with an average of €8.7.

It’s probably pointless to wake up the “Sell in May” crowd anymore, but if anyone following the company is still on duty during the summer, are you on board with similar thoughts, or are you still waiting for more confirmation from future quarters?

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As a reading recommendation for the “two” followers of this thread: the 2023 shareholder letter, in case you haven’t come across it yet.

The text breaks down the company’s various components at different stages in a nicely compact package. For example, I got a clearer picture of Autohero’s situation from this letter than from the Q&As in the quarterly reports.

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Auto1 Group has received a rating for its loan portfolio, which will lower the portfolio’s costs and enable better margins on car loans granted to German consumers.

https://ir.auto1-group.com/websites/auto1/English/6500/news-details.html?newsID=7e5e73ad-2042-4ca2-813e-c4e02a733172

My own understanding of the loan market is quite limited, so hopefully someone can break down the nuances of this.

Below is an excerpt from the shareholder letter published in early 2024: ” We are currently in the data gathering phase; the portfolio needs a minimum age of three years of performance data to obtain a rating, which is expected for this year. With the rating, our refinancing cost of the portfolio will reduce substantially and thus, enhance the profitability of our credit portfolio. At the moment, the GPU impact from financing is quite limited at around EUR 250-300. However, Autohero is a very young business and the portfolio needs a certain minimum age and size. Over time, we intend to offer our internal financing solution in all Autohero markets as we expand our re-financing options and maintain capital discipline. We assume the long-term GPU potential from financing will be around EUR 1,000 per unit.”

A pretty solid package for reaching profitability is now starting to come together. All that’s needed now is more substantial growth.

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At the very least, it helps in providing financing at better rates, which should help increase sales. And of course, this reflects general confidence in the positive development of the company’s business.

Growth will likely accelerate if/when interest rates in Europe fall and consumer confidence and purchasing power improve.

It will be interesting to see if the markets start to anticipate an even stronger economic turnaround in the share price development 6–12 months ahead.

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Regarding growth, I refer to the same (in my opinion excellent) shareholder letter and its Autohero section. As for the Merchant segment, growth has been quite flat for some time, but there is significantly more potential to be tapped from Autohero. I don’t know if my interpretation is correct, but I read the section as suggesting that the biggest obstacle to Autohero’s growth is people’s desire to buy cars in the traditional way. The shift to online shopping doesn’t happen overnight because people are very conservative when buying cars; they want to see and experience the product physically, partly also due to the general reputation/image of car dealerships. I interpreted it to mean that “reprogramming” people through advertising hasn’t yielded the expected return on investment, and the focus has now shifted from forced growth to profitability. It has sort of been recognized and acknowledged that changing buying behavior takes time, not just money. Fortunately, OEMs are doing their part to help Auto1 by normalizing online purchasing as online sales for new cars become more common.

Because of this, my own expectations for growth are not particularly high, and analysts didn’t sound impressed during the Q4 webcast either after hearing this year’s growth forecasts.

In my opinion, however, even with a single-digit growth percentage, there are enough drivers here for the share price to continue rising over the coming year. I have interpreted that the company management is calmly confident about reaching profitability, and falling interest rates and the other factors you mentioned will hopefully lift the growth rate into double digits. I don’t know yet if I can trust my own gut feeling in investment matters, but I feel quite calm about this company.

I would also like to believe that a company brand ambassador coming out would no longer have a negative impact on the brand today.

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I believe that the credit rating also enables the sale of the loan portfolio to a finance company, which frees up capital from the balance sheet. CarMax similarly sells the loans it has granted to consumers off its balance sheet.

I believe that the credit rating also enables the sale of the loan portfolio to a finance company, which frees up capital from the balance sheet. In the US, for example, CarMax similarly sells the loans it has granted to consumers off its balance sheet.

That’s likely how it is, and I would also guess that e-commerce sales in the car trade also took a premature leap forward during COVID, which has since seen a setback. Although the rise of e-commerce is a long-term trend in many industries, even in Tokmanni, for example, one can notice that e-commerce sales have taken a step back lately.

A key obstacle to Autohero’s growth, as I understand it, has also been negative profitability per car sold. Bertermann has said in some earnings calls that they will only really step on the gas with Autohero once the profitability per car sold before group overheads is at break-even. At that point, increasing the growth rate won’t cause an additional cost burden for the company. Now, looking at the figures, I believe determined work has been done toward that.

I personally believe that the stock could reach a point where the market sees it in a new light when it becomes apparent that the prerequisites for growth more aggressive than current forecasts and for the scaling of profitability exist.

Auto1’s main competitor, Aramis Automotive, just released its Q3 interim report yesterday (divergent fiscal year), with 17% growth and raised guidance regarding profitability.

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Auto1 Q2 released:

Still need to go through the results more closely, but it seems to have been a strong quarter:

Result Highlights for the second quarter

  • Units sold grew to 166,292, up 17% year over year
  • Record gross profit of EUR 173.3 million, up 36% year over year
  • Record adjusted EBITDA of EUR 20.7 million, an improvement of EUR 35.6 million compared to Q2 2023
  • Record Merchant gross profit of EUR 136.4 million, up 32% year over year
  • Record Merchant gross profit per unit of EUR 918, up 13% year over year
  • Record Retail gross profit of EUR 36.9 million, up 50% year over year
  • Record Retail gross profit per unit of EUR 2,077, up 24% year over year

Part of the full-year guidance was also updated:

  • AUTO1 Group updated its full-year unit guidance, with a target of 620,000 - 665,000 units sold, with 550,000 - 595,000 units sold in its Merchant segment and around 70,000 units sold in its Retail segment.

  • The Group increased its gross profit guidance to EUR 610 - 680 million with an improved adjusted EBITDA target of EUR 45 - 65 million for the full year.

Edit: That was indeed a good quarter. There was also improvement in Q-o-Q figures, even though Q2 has traditionally been slightly weaker for the company than Q1. Based on this, we can expect further improving results from Q3.

From here you can join the webcast starting today at 10:30.

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Great progress! Growth is significantly higher than the market, so market share is being taken from competitors. Autohero’s performance is also strong:

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The business is certainly gaining strong momentum, and one would expect the business environment to ease as the availability of newer used cars improves and interest rates fall. The figures also looked strong to me. What I’m most curious about is the role of captive financing as a relatively new and rapidly growing product, i.e., financing granted to car dealerships and consumers. Could this give a rosier picture of profitability than reality if, for example, credit loss provisions do not match future credit losses? There were a couple of slides dedicated to it in the presentation, so perhaps we’ll understand that business better after the webcast.

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Post a comment if you’re listening. What time is the webcast, by the way?

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I am on vacation, so I can type up a short summary of the webcast based on what I understood. In practice, the Q&A is the only interesting part, as everything else is largely the CEO and CFO reading the presentation to the participants.

I am combining answers related to the same topic under a single paragraph.

On a general level, I thought the tone of the webcast was quite neutral and conservative, even cautious. Expectations were not hyped at all in the sense that the Q2 growth figures would become the “new normal.” Q2 growth was indeed faster than the market, but it even exceeded the company’s own expectations. Otherwise, expectations are for a normal annual cycle where the machine is fine-tuned piece by piece to be more efficient. Q3 is usually strong, and Q4 is the weakest, especially for Merchant, as dealers reduce their purchases towards the end of the year. Q4 AEBITDA was expected to hover around zero. In practice, this means Q3 AEBITDA is expected to be around 20 MEUR and Q4 around zero, which mathematically brings it quite close to the midpoint of the annual target.

However, the CEO refused to estimate which way the entire market moved during Q2, as the data for that is not yet ready. Regarding Germany, they saw the market grow by 6-8% compared to last year. In terms of prices, a normal and healthy decline was observed. According to the CEO, this is good for Auto1 because it makes cars affordable and more accessible, and normalizes the market. For next year, mid-to-high single-digit growth in unit sales is expected.

Fixed costs (for HQ, this includes finance, HR, tech, marketing) are expected to remain fairly stable, perhaps growing slightly. The growth of the sales and purchasing network continues at roughly the Q2 pace, maybe slightly faster. There is also a focus on sales, so costs for these two areas will rise.

Autohero:

During the remainder of the year, only marginal growth is expected in Autohero’s GPU, and the expectation is to stay around the €2,000 level. An increase in GPU is only expected sometime next year when the improvements currently under development start to take effect.

Autohero’s unit costs before group overhead are improving quarterly, even monthly, and they are currently close to breakeven. In recent months, the first markets (countries?) have practically already reached this, but it must also be achieved at the company level. So, in practice, they repeated the goal of being at breakeven before group overhead, after which they will begin to accelerate Autohero’s growth. Autohero’s marketing cost per unit will remain at the current level in the near future.

Merchant:

The Merchant GPU was given a range of 800–900 euros for Q1-24, which was exceeded this quarter. In practice, this was explained by everything falling into place during Q2. There is no intention to raise the range, but the GPU is expected to stay near the top end of the range.

The growth in the number of dealers participating in trading with Auto1 generally comes from all 30 demand areas, so the growth is not particularly concentrated. Auto1 estimates there are about 200,000–220,000 dealers in Europe, of which they sold to just over 25,000 during the quarter. Thus, saturation is still a long way off.

Loan stuff:

There were three questions regarding these, but I didn’t have time to understand each one deeply enough, so I’ll leave them to others. I might try to go through these a bit later.

Additionally, I checked the updated recommendations after Q2 (at the time of posting), which have all remained unchanged:

  • JP Morgan kept its recommendation at 7.1 euros (neutral/hold).
  • Goldman Sachs also kept its recommendation at 7.2 euros (neutral/hold).
  • RBC likewise kept its recommendation at 13 euros (Buy).
  • A couple of days before the interim report, Deutsche Bank also kept its recommendation unchanged at 10 euros (Buy).

The fact that analysts kept their recommendations unchanged supports my interpretation of the webcast, where the strong interim report was still considered a one-off at this stage. However, the report was good, there’s no getting around that, so I personally hope this is mainly a “storm warning” of what’s to come.

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Thanks for the summary.

Just checking—were these latest analyst target prices you mentioned actually updated after today’s interim report? Where can you check those? The company’s website lists them, but none have been updated today yet:

https://ir.auto1-group.com/websites/auto1/English/3000/share.html#analyst

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