Dumping AI content here is not a good thing. But what about stories from various news outlets that a journalist has cleverly put together using AI? Do those kinds of links become high-quality just because they are published under the name of a major commercial entity, even though they were created with the help of AI?
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I think these principles should be followed in absolutely everything:
- What is ALWAYS essential is the userâs own thoughts, not links, copied articles, images, videos, or AI slop.
- If you post links, images, videos, or AI content, they must always be accompanied by your own reflection. Even when posting about a news item or a company analysis.
- Put quotes in quote blocks, and sources must be cited (including the use of AI, along with the prompt).
- If the majority of a post is something other than your own content, consider whether itâs worth posting at all. Sometimes it is, but in that AI case I reacted to, itâs a firm NO.
These work well on another forum. It keeps the discussion from turning into just posting videos or AI slop.
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Itâs really considerate when others start an AI post with an introductory phrase like âGemini said this.â Although Iâm not a fan of AI posts, it makes browsing easier. Conversely, the worst is when someone claims theyâve âbeen reflecting on the matter,â and then the layout and phrasing are clearly AI-generated, and the content often follows suit.
This is in the context that AI is unavoidable. In that case, itâs most convenient for the reader if the source is revealed within the first three words. This is because most human readers want to read the thoughts of other humans. Then you can just scroll to the next one, making time management more efficient.
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I never would have guessed that Juurikki, who is generally critical of AI, would end up defending the use of AI as a tool for information retrieval.
Who knows what the term âNon-Market Economy, NMEâ means? Hands up. Not many hands to be seen. In the entire history of the Inderes forum, the term has not been used once, according to the search engine, until Juurikki introduced it today, believing it was necessary for assessing country risk. Case: PYN Elite / Vietnam.
Having avoided business schools, Juurikkiâs understanding of the termâs precise meaning was quite hazy until asking Googleâs AI. It provided a neat summary, just like that.
Scientific argumentation is not required on the Inderes forum, but no one with a researcherâs training easily deviates from a few basic principles. The source is always cited, and if it is a direct quote, quotation marks are used. It would be dishonest not to disclose, when introducing a subject that is strange and largely new even to oneself, that it is an AI-generated summary.
At least Juurikkiâs time is not sufficient for constructing very deep essays, when it is, after all, just a new deepening perspective on country risk assessment in a single discussion thread.
The Inderes forum serves as a school for Juurikki at least, where one can learn from those smarter than oneself and hopefully give something back in return. AI summaries can be useful for particularly specific questions, as long as they are used only when needed. Of course, one shouldnât spam the forum with common knowledge, even if the AIâs summary is personally pleasing.
So, what does Non-Market Economy mean? Go check the PYN thread.
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I disagree with this. In my opinion, it is valuable to post relevant or interesting news and current affairs such as earnings reports, stock exchange releases, management interviews, analyst updates, financial media news, etc., to company threads with a relatively low threshold.
It is often even better to share such things neutrally first, and only then, if appropriate, add oneâs own thoughts and opinions, so that opinions and oneâs own conclusions do not get too mixed up with facts or other peopleâs opinions and conclusions. (As long as one doesnât just dump some random X-link or AI-sloppiness or similar.)
Of course, the forumâs main added value comes from the participantsâ own thoughts and well-reasoned writings, but this does not happen in a vacuum, and the forumâs function as a news aggregator is also important.
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Good point, and I donât mind news being posted. But it would be nice if people could take the effort to include at least a short âNokia filed for bankruptcyâ intro instead of just a link. It takes 3 seconds. If someone needs a real-time news service, a discussion forum is not the right place for it.
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AI is an absolutely brilliant tool for information retrieval, company analysis, generating investment ideas, summarizing large amounts of data, explaining abbreviations and concepts, developing investment tools, etc. I donât think anyone is questioning that. But when people discuss things here, I believe most want to talk with humans and not AI. You donât even need this forum for the latter.
My original message was prompted by the fact that someone posted two rather long AI outputs as-is into a company thread. Without any original content. Without prompts. Pretty much zero content. And apparently, the mods agreed, as those two messages disappeared from there quickly.
A thread for sharing the best ways to utilize AI would be more useful. Then everyone could use those skills themselves and pull similar analyses for every company every single day.
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I posted the following message in the âwondering about share price changesâ thread, which was flagged and removed:
Itâs honestly beyond me what was so objectionable about this!
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Hi!
It wasnât there; it was in the Stock Exchange thread and was flagged. I moved it to the Share Price Development thread after it was flagged. 
But then, soon after my action, someone else must have flagged it, and the view probably hadnât updated for the flagger or my colleagueâmeaning it likely still appeared to them as being in the Stock Exchange thread, so they deleted it. I restored it a moment ago after reading your message.
Sometimes it happens that a message has already been deleted (by us or the author) or moved, but for some people, it hasnât âupdatedâ yet (itâs still visible to them), perhaps because they had that specific thread open or something (?), as some people have replied to messages that were deleted a while ago.
Yeah, no worries. And for the next flagger and moderator, it still appeared âincorrectlyâ even though it had been moved.
I sometimes post in the wrong thread myself, for example, the wrong Valmet thread. 
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If thatâs the case, then it ended up in the wrong thread by mistake. I specifically tried to choose a thread where it wouldnât get flagged.
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In the thread about earnings-related pension accrual, I asked for more details regarding the âhellâ that the boomers supposedly went through. The message was flagged
Apparently, for some, living through decades of continuous economic growth is hell; go figure.
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I flagged this because the topic of the thread is Earnings-related pension accrual, as indicated by the title. There is no reason to go off on tangents, especially with one-line comments. You should write well-reasoned opinions according to the topic rather than nitpicking individual words in someoneâs message. You should also learn to reply to comments in other threads; for instance, in the âKahvihuoneâ (Coffee Room) section, the discussion is quite free-form.
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I recommend avoiding the thread in question anyway; its content seems very stale and one-sided whenever Iâve happened to stumble upon it.
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A tip for @amokk: there is an âInderesâ failed recommendationsâ thread on the forum where you can post messages regarding recommendations from Inderes (the analysts) that went wrong. The âCoffee Roomâ thread is also a fairly general-purpose place for all kinds of messages.
Company-specific threads are intended for messages discussing those companies as investment targets.
There is a bit of a difference in thread culture compared to, for example, the Kauppalehti discussion forum. By following these guidelines, you will mostly avoid flags/message deletions and can make your voice heard here without experiences of censorship 
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