Ah, okay, good to know and of course the rules are surely on the right track. I’m still going to take that break though, as I mentioned. I mainly posted more actively because @Sijoittaja-alokas interviewed me and I thought I’d get a bit more active.
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Question for the moderators. Is it not allowed to challenge Inderes analysts on this site at all? If that truly is the case, then I’ll have to change my approach.
Maybe you should take a look in the mirror. When you claim an analyst is responsible for cancer deaths, threaten action by the authorities if your comments are deleted, etc., you’ve really lost the plot. Have you no shame?
P.S. Along with others, I have flagged those previous comments of yours in the Faron thread. Truly unhinged stuff. It is perfectly understandable that a bad investment is frustrating, but processing the matter should start with analyzing your own investment decisions.
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Reading comprehension is lacking again. Where exactly have I supposedly claimed that? On the contrary, I’ve looked in the mirror many times and I’m quite satisfied that I’ve been involved in this for a long time, so quick profits were never on my mind. Don’t put words in my mouth and work on your reading comprehension. And yep, regulatory actions are indeed on my mind.
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If an analyst is completely clueless for once and their view is driving the share price, take full advantage of the opportunity the situation offers. Just go ahead and place a buy order.
Before rushing to talk to the police or any other authority, you should familiarize yourself with the meaning of the term freedom of speech. The forum owner has every right to delete every single comment of yours or mine and slap on a lifetime ban, and it doesn’t violate freedom of speech in any way.
For my part, I’m ending this discussion here.
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As an observer, I’d just like to say that it’s quite fruitless to play post-game analysis of flaggings here if the original messages cannot be displayed to the readers. It turns into a bit of pointless venting.
Tano, as per the opening post, a drainage system is needed…
Perhaps it would still be worth familiarizing yourself at least superficially with legal matters, if you’re going to appeal to them anyway.
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How about we don’t insult the most vulnerable in society in the future? Disabled children have a really hard time as it is. Thank you.
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It’s not entirely clear why? So, because your message was moderated out? I’m sorry, but the forum administrator is completely free to discard your inappropriate messages, and no authority has anything to say about it. Now, let’s use some common sense. Analysts can be challenged here, and indeed they are, but if it’s done in an offensive way and breaking the rules, then of course moderation will strike.
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My message below, which turned out to be completely correct, was flagged and removed for some reason. It doesn’t really matter, I’m just wondering.
By following the futures, you can immediately see if Trump has carried out his threats
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Let me clarify the situation a bit, as there have been comments suggesting that I might be asking for special treatment or not following forum rules. I don’t think that’s the case. The problem is that it has never been clear what rules I might have broken, especially to the extent of meriting a ban.
On Inderes forums, every single message for which I’ve received a notification “message has been flagged and hidden” has subsequently been deleted by moderators. It has never been explained why the moderators made this decision. The reasons for flagging vary, but by far the most common is “spam.” Since I wasn’t advertising anything, and I can’t figure out what in my message was “spam,” I have to interpret these flags as actually meaning the flagger is pressing the button with the real intention of saying “I don’t agree with you,” “I don’t like what you wrote,” or perhaps in some situations, simply “I want your message deleted.”
Presumably, if moderation assessed each flag on a case-by-case basis and determined whether there were actual grounds for the flag, some messages would likely be restored. Since moderators have never disagreed with these flags, it gives the impression that moderators don’t actually care if a message violates any rules. Instead, if the hidden threshold defined in the flags is exceeded, it is always deleted. Because all messages get deleted, I can’t even try to guess the transgression based on which messages the moderators restore and which they delete. The system unfortunately gives the impression that a sufficient number of community members can practically delete any message they wish.
In a discussion, I am fully prepared to admit I’m wrong or relying on incorrect information if the other party demonstrates it, but it’s impossible to discuss if the other party doesn’t even try to justify anything and the “response” to a message is practically “delete this and ban the writer” via the flag button. Based on this kind of feedback, it gives the impression that the person with the opposing opinion doesn’t have real arguments and instead wants to get rid of the dissenting voice that has strayed into the echo chamber as painlessly as possible.
Inderes and moderation can naturally freely delete anything for any reason. I have never challenged deletions because I understand this. Very rarely, I have tried to rephrase the matter differently in a new message, trying to guess what the flag was about, but this usually doesn’t work either.
The problem with continuing participation arises when moderators at some point decide there are “too many” flags and issue a ban that feels completely unfounded, which practically also prevents reading the forums. This is because a ban not only prevents starting new messages but prevents logging into the entire forum. So I no longer see which threads have new messages, which makes following the forum practically impossible without manually digging up threads and figuring out which messages were new since the last time. And since the bans are significant — in this case, six weeks — it practically communicates that I am wanted off this platform entirely.
I understand the current system when moderators clear out normal forum clutter, like “new user created today, first message is some ad links,” but if a user who has written thousands of decent messages over the years is thrown out with the sole justification of “too many people flag your messages,” I have to interpret the situation with incomplete information and I don’t know what I did wrong.
But yeah, I guess that’s enough for now. Apologies for cluttering the coffee room with this. Let me know if Inderes changes its moderation system to the extent that it agrees to explain what in the deleted text is actually against the rules so that rule violations can be avoided in the future before the ban hammer swings. If “too many flags” is the real reason for bans and the content of the messages themselves is not taken into account, I would appreciate it if it considered the number of flags in relation to the number of messages — just tracking the number of flags leads to a situation where it’s practically advisable to write as little as possible so that your account doesn’t get taken away, because there’s always a risk that someone will be offended by something.
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Since you presented this as a reply to my post, I have to respond again, even though I don’t want to continue littering the coffee room:
Now pay attention! I have not made either comment. My post was a response to a poll about whether people like to read your stuff. Even though I myself answered the poll (“yes”), I think such a poll is somewhat tasteless, no matter who it concerns, for reasons I explained in my post.
Without singling anyone out - I agree that a 6-week ban from the entire forum is long, and in my opinion, a few other bans I’ve seen have been quite harsh - at least if it’s the first time someone has been given a break - of course, no one else but the mods and the banned person can know this. Of course, if forum rules are broken despite repeated short breaks, then the whip should definitely be hardened. And on the other hand, the longer the ban, the clearer the justification must be.
P.S. Could the mods move this whole discussion to the flagging discussion, let’s stop cluttering up this coffee room.
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I don’t have personal experience because, to my knowledge, none of my messages have been deleted and I’ve never received any bans from the forum, but if it’s true that when a message is deleted / a ban is issued, you don’t receive a message from the moderator stating which rules were violated, and there’s no discussion or opportunity to improve, then it sounds like pretty poor moderation.
Secondly, if bans prevent logging into the forum, that’s a pretty harsh move as the forum’s tracking history goes with it. At least for me, it would sting if I couldn’t use the “Unread” tab for selected threads.
So, it’s completely understandable if you no longer wish to participate in the discussion, but for my part, I can say that your messages have always been enjoyable to read and are usually well-reasoned and quite proper, so I will definitely miss them. Of course, I don’t read those political threads much so I don’t know what’s been written there, but you’ve certainly had a lot to contribute, for example, in the semiconductor thread and gaming threads.
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The undersigned set up a poll. The main reason was a) to encourage a good writer, Jarnis, after receiving flags and bans, and to show that despite the headwinds, his contribution is generally valued on the forum. The second reason was b) to spark a discussion about forum moderation. And it did. Moderation is necessary, including bans, and exceptions not so much, but not to the extent that people who simply have a different opinion are flagged and banned. I don’t like cancel culture. And 6 weeks sounds exceptionally long. Such measures drive writers away from the forum.
The poll is somewhat controversial because it concerns an individual, but the approach was positive. I usually wouldn’t post something like this, but I made an exception this time. If Jarnis thinks it was a bad idea, then it was, and my apologies. Otherwise, everyone is free to have their own opinion.
Welcome back! 
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I also have to mention in passing that blocking a moderator on social media after being banned doesn’t exactly promote a constructive discussion culture (screenshot from 29.12.2025).
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I’m not sure which thread this should be discussed in. But I really dislike the fact that purely AI-generated dumps are being posted as-is in company threads. There is practically no original content included, just AI text that isn’t even hidden. I think it should be like this:
- There must always be some original analysis or commentary included. Not just AI content.
- The prompt should be visible.
- Hide the AI response within the post, as can be done on the forum:
AI-generated response
Nothing interesting.
A standalone AI response is almost completely zero-value content. Anyone can ask their preferred LLM for an AI analysis of any company at any time. A single AI response is therefore almost meaningless information for others.
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Excellent post, as “AI-assisted” replies are only becoming more frequent. There’s nothing wrong per se with using AI as a tool and to enrich information. Pure AI posts, on the other hand, represent intellectual laziness and impersonal jargon, which act slowly but surely like inflation on the money in a checking account → the value of the asset, i.e., in this case the discussion forum, decreases. My personal take on this is “post when you have something of your own to say”.
Attached is the response from an AI, Google Gemini, which also recognizes the problem:
Summary
That is a frustrating phenomenon that seems to be becoming more common just about everywhere these days. When a forum discussion is supposed to be a genuine exchange of ideas, the “empty” text churned out by AI often feels like someone offering plastic fruit to someone who is actually hungry.
My view: A genuine community is based on human experience and nuances – those mistakes and the passion that AI cannot fully mimic. If a forum is filled with nothing but AI fluff, it loses its soul quite quickly.
This AI-hiding might be a good idea after all 
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On some discussion forums, AI content is completely banned, and posting it can lead to a ban. Perhaps there’s no need for such drastic censorship here, but I understand why text churned out by AI is perceived as spam. It is, after all, not at all personal or human, which is the essence of communication between people.
If messages whose primary content is AI-generated are kept visible here, the quality of discussion will indeed decline, not improve. Anyone can ask an AI for company or macro analyses; there is no point in copying them here. Instead, one can of course combine their own interpretation and opinions with information obtained from AI. That is no different from reading about a topic on Wikipedia yourself.
The hide function suggested in earlier posts would probably be the best approach if AI copy-paste must be included in a message.
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Dumping AI content here is not a good thing. But what about stories from various news outlets that a journalist has cleverly put together using AI? Do those kinds of links become high-quality just because they are published under the name of a major commercial entity, even though they were created with the help of AI?
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I think these principles should be followed in absolutely everything:
- What is ALWAYS essential is the user’s own thoughts, not links, copied articles, images, videos, or AI slop.
- If you post links, images, videos, or AI content, they must always be accompanied by your own reflection. Even when posting about a news item or a company analysis.
- Put quotes in quote blocks, and sources must be cited (including the use of AI, along with the prompt).
- If the majority of a post is something other than your own content, consider whether it’s worth posting at all. Sometimes it is, but in that AI case I reacted to, it’s a firm NO.
These work well on another forum. It keeps the discussion from turning into just posting videos or AI slop.
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It’s really considerate when others start an AI post with an introductory phrase like “Gemini said this.” Although I’m not a fan of AI posts, it makes browsing easier. Conversely, the worst is when someone claims they’ve “been reflecting on the matter,” and then the layout and phrasing are clearly AI-generated, and the content often follows suit.
This is in the context that AI is unavoidable. In that case, it’s most convenient for the reader if the source is revealed within the first three words. This is because most human readers want to read the thoughts of other humans. Then you can just scroll to the next one, making time management more efficient.
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