Pinterest - a declining service, so trouble brewing, or what's the deal?

I had long thought that this social media player and its stock would have sunk into obscurity. :slight_smile:

Pinterest is a “social media platform” that focuses on sharing images and and videos. It seems that many people use this service to get ideas and inspiration. I haven’t really used the service, but from my own glances, the service hasn’t changed significantly. The service was launched in 2010, so it’s not among the very first nor the very latest services.

I sometimes wonder if the service is dead:

  • Pinterest had 465 million active users in 2023, which was 7.3% more than the previous year. The tenth largest social media in the world, so it’s certainly not a small player.

  • Revenue last year was 3,055 million, which isn’t that huge if you consider different social media giants, but on the other hand, it’s not a small company if you don’t compare it to mega-companies. :smiley:

  • Market capitalization is 20.42 billion dollars

Based on user numbers, I would say it’s a giant, but on the other hand, when considering other figures, it’s not such a giant; well, on the Helsinki Stock Exchange, this would be a mega-giant.

A little more about this social media platform:

The company may be unfamiliar to many here, even if the name is known, so I recommend visiting the website: https://fi.pinterest.com/

Quoted from the aforementioned website:

What is Pinterest?

Pinterest is a visual tool that makes it easy to find ideas, such as recipes or inspiring interior design or style tips.

Pinterest is a true treasure trove, with billions of Pins on the service. When you see interesting Pins, save them to your own boards to keep them organized and easy to find. You can also create Pins and share your ideas with other Pinterest users.

An investor’s perspective

Pinterest is an apparently good option for companies because a company can present the image it wants of itself and its products, and there’s less need to fear negative comments or hate speech. In addition, users of this service have more purchasing power than active users of many other services; Pinterest users are a bit older.

At the beginning of 2016, there were 128 million users, at the beginning of 2020, there were 367 million users, and last year it was 465 million. So, it’s not a decaying platform.

On the other hand, according to some investors, the revenue level has not been commendable, and the company’s outlook and costs have also risen. Based on what I’ve read, I haven’t seen any major factors that would allow me to foresee significant growth in the company’s figures. AI has also been mentioned, as is customary, but in my opinion, not credibly, but rather because it has to be mentioned.

On Valuations (August 2nd):

P/E ratio 100

P/B ratio 6.22

P/S ratio 5.90

EV/EBITDA 128


In my opinion, the latest reflections after the recent quarter already tell a lot:

https://x.com/gurufocus/status/1818395096359796849

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And here’s a little more from Pinterest’s own pages:


And here are Olli Koponen’s thoughts on Pinterest’s Q2, taken from the Weekly Earnings Summary, and the video should start playing from the correct spot:

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Kagi is a search engine where users can set domain-specific preferences for their searches, allowing them to either block domains entirely, or lower or increase their ranking weight.

Here are the statistics for the domains most frequently blocked by all of the service’s users. :smiley:

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Good catch @Ilkka6. Pinterest is part of the closed internet, meaning the site cannot be used by outsiders without registration. This differs from other image and video services, which may explain why the site is perceived as having died or lost out in the competition for users’ and advertisers’ time. For instance, it’s not worth posting links leading to Pinterest on social media, because by no means everyone has an account there. Similarly, if you search for images using a search engine, you don’t want images from Pinterest as results, which may explain why Pinterest is the most blocked site there.

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A few things about Pinterest have puzzled me from time to time:

  1. Low ARPU (average revenue per user). After all, people use Pinterest with the mindset of “I should get X”. For example, they want home decor or style inspiration etc., and in practice, they go to the platform with their wallets open and ready to spend money. How has this not been monetized any better? Or do they need more salespeople, better technology, etc.?

  2. Comparing Pinterest to social media services. This is probably about fighting for the same advertising dollars, rather than Pinterest’s social side, which is quite negligible compared to the others. This is likely why people don’t spend as much time on Pinterest as they do on other social media services.

An interesting company indeed. At some point, there was also a lot of speculation that a larger company, like Microsoft or Amazon, would buy it.

I also noticed at some point that the investing world is quite male-dominated and men had very minimal knowledge of Pinterest, but all of their female partners knew and used Pinterest :slight_smile:

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Here’s some information about Pinterest’s recent performance, among other things. :slight_smile:

The company is currently focusing on growing ad revenue and implementing new tools, especially regarding automation and optimization. While the growth forecast for the latest quarter fell slightly short of expectations, the long-term outlook is strong thanks to AI, strategic partnerships, and new advertising innovations.

There may be fluctuations in the short term, but over a two-year horizon, growth is expected to accelerate, especially with increased investments from existing advertisers.

https://x.com/TheTranscript_/status/1887623072917622799
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Here’s a quick look at Pinterest. :slight_smile:

https://x.com/towardsfinance/status/1896308658340065733

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Pinterest’s revenue and user numbers grew in the first quarter. The company also reported strong cash flow and profitability, which indicates a robust business foundation.

User engagement and activity continued to grow across different markets.

According to the CEO, the company’s strategy and successful execution have increased its resilience in a changing advertising environment. AI solutions (dadaa) support user shopping behavior and improve ad revenue, strengthening long-term growth prospects.

https://x.com/earnings_guy/status/1920571225144791124
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Company’s own materials

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Pinterest’s revenue grew strongly compared to the previous year, and the company once again reached a new record in user numbers. User activity grew globally, and the company’s business also generated strong cash flow.

According to CEO Bill Ready, young adults, especially Generation Z, now account for over half of the users. He emphasizes that Pinterest has found a clear direction by offering users personalized “help” in finding ideas & products, and additionally, an effective AI-powered platform for advertisers.

https://x.com/earnings_guy/status/1953552985566466490
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Company’s own materials

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Pinterest’s figures looked quite acceptable at a quick glance, but upon closer inspection, it was a disappointment, falling short of expectations. Revenue grew and users increased, but the result still fell short of expectations, and growth no longer impresses in the same way as competitors.

Management hyped AI investments and new features, but the market seems to be looking for more proof than talk; user numbers alone are no longer enough.

https://x.com/earnings_guy/status/1985816528499949652



Company’s own materials



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Here are a couple of small points related to Pinterest. :slight_smile:

https://x.com/nikoliasgoninus/status/1989259949835419661


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Pinterest is being speculated as an acquisition target for OpenAI. There could be hidden value in the image library that isn’t reflected in the stock price.

This certainly isn’t being priced as an AI company… This could be an interesting contrarian play for 2026.

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Pinterest CEO Bill Ready rebuked and fired employees who created an internal tool to track layoffs. :thinking:

The company is currently cutting less than 15 percent of its workforce and shifting more resources to AI. Ready said that the aforementioned tool violated confidentiality and privacy.

Key Points

  • Pinterest CEO Bill Ready lashed out at staffers who created an internal tool to track layoffs at the company, and fired those involved.
  • The company announced last week it would lay off less than 15% of its workforce and cut back on office space as part of a broader restructuring.
  • Several Pinterest engineers created an internal software tool to try and quantify the layoffs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/03/pinterest-ceo-puts-staffers-on-blast-who-created-tool-to-track-layoffs.html

Pinterest is doing pretty well in a sense, as revenue and user numbers hit record highs.

AI is running in the background and searches are being made more than ever, but investors still got spooked and started selling off because the latest figures and future outlook fell short of expectations.

Even though the cash flow is strong and the user base is solid, the markets are demanding a faster pace, which sent the share price into a sharp nosedive.




The company’s own materials