Nitpicking, Proofreading, and Spelling Thread

It’s an insignificant thing, at least to me, but “kaipa” is written like this, contrary to how it’s pronounced. Similarly, most people write “itsekin” as “itsekkin,” which is natural since Finns are used to writing exactly as they pronounce. I wouldn’t be surprised if those double-consonant versions are accepted into the literary language at some point, just like “alkaa tekemään.”

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Interesting question! I would say yes, if the emoji is an illustration supporting the text on a metalevel, as it often is. Or even if the emoji were considered a hieroglyph, normal punctuation marks would still be in place for clarity. On the other hand, if a sentence consists solely of emojis, a period feels odd.

But yes. I agree that good writing is a kind of status symbol, although its appreciation may not be at the same level as it once was. Even journalists and journalism professionals struggle with it nowadays.

For me, it doesn’t matter how others write. Since we are on an investment forum, it’s good to remember that to be a good investor, you don’t need to be some kind of Agricola.

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As someone might have noticed, I slightly edited my text; at least that exclamation mark and question mark belong in the last sentence. A mere period just looks a bit odd to my eyes after an emoticon. Plus, it requires an extra space, or the emoticon gets ruined.

Addition: This was indeed a prime example of comma-slicing, or rather, period-slicing :-).

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Exactly, individual errors don’t mean anything and I myself considered for a long time whether to correct that single word. It was just a delicious example of a declension that had become rooted in spoken language. Thanks for the like, a weight has been lifted from my heart :grin:

But I’m really not going to start linking every little slip-up here, and I don’t believe the thread will turn into that.

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Put the emoji after the period. :upside_down_face:

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This is a case of boundary gemination. When the first letter of a word pair, compound word, or clitic particle is a consonant, it doubles. That is, in speech.

Vaatekkaappi (wardrobe), taidemmaalari (art painter), meneppois (go away).

I’ll jump off a rope if these are still accepted into the written language.

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If the standard language has been trying to remove double consonants for a few centuries now, and still hasn’t succeeded, isn’t it time to ask why it was required in the first place?

Which dialect has the power? Sankko!

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If an emoji is placed after a period, it describes the entire preceding paragraph. If, however, an emoji concludes a sentence, with or without a period, it refers only to the preceding sentence. :thinking:

At least, if we interpret emojis to behave like citations.

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So that’s how they should be used, at least in academic text. Just kidding… :face_with_hand_over_mouth::grimacing:

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As someone with reading and other minor disorders, I appreciate clear articulation and structure in the texts I read. Concise and descriptive headings, subheadings, logical narrative progression, and correct spelling are prerequisites for being able to read any longer text thoughtfully. However, the inability to produce written expression that meets these same demands is extremely frustrating and constantly leads to misunderstandings if one tries to engage in any kind of written discussion. They say one learns to write by writing and to read by reading, which is quite different from my own empirical experience. And how on earth does one learn to read a text they wrote themselves? If I started proofreading my own work, I would never be able to produce anything longer than a simple greeting. Against this background, proofreading and understanding one’s own text is always purely up to the reader. Luckily, everything is much easier with numbers.

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What if you collaborated with your closest person or someone else frustrated by a similar problem? Start an online group and help thousands of others. This is a humble tip from a normal Juurikki who doesn’t really understand the issue, feel free to mock it. Besides, the idea is important, not the formalities.

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It has worked like this, my closest partner has simply quit this job. No big deal, someday, when I find a scribe fast enough and, above all, capable of structuring my own narrative into a clear written form, the product will certainly be released for public distribution.

It seems you’re just a smarter-than-average person who can’t control the flow of thoughts—or the flow of perception.

Just keep writing careless and cryptic messages. They’re fun even when they’re fact- and profundity-oriented. No one will intentionally misinterpret them, except for bad people, and you don’t need to care about those poor souls.

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Wasn’t this supposed to be about not nitpicking other people’s mistakes, but letting them say “guu” if they “guugle”? Well, since it came up, I strongly advocate that we should stop “guugling” “kuu” and say it like it is: q is “kuu”, the sun is “aurinko”, not “auringo”.

And since we’ve started nitpicking, may I also talk about “reivaaminen” (reeving)? I listen to and watch videos of a highly convincing analyst who uses rich, beautiful language with great pleasure, and then, like a bolt from the blue, forecasts are “reeved” upwards! “Reeved” upwards?

All sailors know what reeving is: it’s reducing sail. When the wind picks up so much that the heeling moment of the sail becomes too great and pushes the boat too far onto its side, the sail is reduced: the bottom edge of the mainsail is bundled onto the boom, the roller-furling headsail is rolled in, which reduces the sail triangle at the bow. The center of gravity of the sail area shifts downwards and the sail area decreases, allowing the boat to sail more upright, and as a result, the keel and rudder provide significantly better required force from the water.

All other “reevings” in our traditional language are based on a misunderstanding. If reeving is used as a metaphor, then you “reeve” when something escalates too much, and you want to curb excessive consequences by taking actions that mitigate the effects. Hopefully, this is clear now.

Of course, “reivaaminen” in modern jargon is also an Anglicism referring to acid-hippie rave dance parties, but that long-standing, commonly used comparison, where, for example, a course is “reeved” in various directions, is simply a misuse of the word “reevaus” based on a misunderstanding and poor language. Let’s stop it now, at the same time as we stop “guugling.”

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What about this:
“Component shortage plagued the industry”

Plagued?

Gave a vaccination against something?
Perhaps against the next component shortage? Now that it’s been vaccinated, we’ll fare better in the future.

Perhaps its own component production was established,
instead of subcontracting? Or what?

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The verb “rokottaa” has two meanings. The first is to give a vaccine, and the second is to reduce, weaken, or afflict.

For example, in sports, it’s often said that player A “rokotti” (punished/took advantage of) player B’s mistake. That might give a good idea of this second meaning.

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Either my sarcasm detector is broken, or you’ve put a lot of work into this. I think you write high-quality and clearly structured text that is easy to understand :+1:

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Relax a bit, “quuquttelu” (q-ing) was commented on before the thread’s idea was clarified a bit :grin:

That “reivaaminen” (reving) was an interesting point, I haven’t been able to question its use :thinking: Could it be possible that it was first used as a metaphor for bringing something down, but some who didn’t know the word’s actual meaning have used it for “reving” forecasts down or up?

Sometimes one also hears how an opponent “kuittasi” (countered/rebuffed) another’s mistake, someone is being “kuittailtu” (teased/rebuffed), or a comment is a good “kuitti” (rebuttal/receipt). Does anyone know where this comes from, or is it just an error that has crept into the language and become established?

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Wouldn’t the polysemy of words and proverbs rather be a richness of language than an error? As you noted with the term “rokottaa” (to vaccinate/to inoculate/to graft), which has several different meanings depending on the context in which it is used.

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