Bloom Energy Corp

I thought I’d move the discussion from here Energia-alan teknologinen kehitys ja sijoitusmahdollisuudet - Talous & markkinat - Inderes forum and create a separate thread so we can discuss this in more detail and possibly generate more interest in it.

So, this is a company with its hands in many different areas. There are fuel cells, electrolyzers, gases, carbon capture, and so on and so forth.

Here are some links to get a better idea of what kind of company this is.

Latest investor conference published at the end of May

Q2 Report 2022
https://investor.bloomenergy.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2022/Bloom-Energy-Announces-Second-Quarter-2022-Financial-Results/default.aspx

Twitter
https://twitter.com/Bloom_Energy

Youtube
https://youtube.com/user/BloomEnergy

I’ll try to update this thread with information as I fish it out from the depths of the internet. Let’s try to get some discussion going :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Thanks for the new thread! Bloom certainly deserves its own. Its market value is already comparable to Wärtsilä, but growth is guided at approximately 30% annually into the foreseeable future. Although this year’s growth is quite negligible, I suspect those forecasts will be exceeded in the future as the seeds begin to sprout globally. And the electrolyzer has only just been completed. Not a moment too soon, as that market is literally exploding.

The investor presentation contains comprehensive prospects of where we are and where we’re headed, but one future multi-billion-dollar segment is missing: the consumer market:

''The nearly 2000 sq. ft. home is the first demonstration project with solar panels, a battery, an electrolyzer to convert solar energy to green hydrogen and a fuel cell to supply electricity for the home. ‘’

Construction Begins on the [H2] Hydrogen Home | SoCalGas Newsroom

This is an interesting piece of news because the home builder is SoCalGas, whose CEO appears at Bloom’s investor event and is a Bloom customer.

It’s very clear that this microgrid concept will spread to consumers as technology matures and becomes competitive. And Nilsson Energy in Sweden, for example, built a similar house years ago. I recall similar projects have been set up in Germany as well. Similarly, Enphase’s commercial concept already includes solar power and batteries in addition to a fuel cell, meaning it’s only missing a small electrolyzer to complete the so-called ultimate system, which has all the ingredients for long-term storage of (solar) electricity and complete independence from the grid. So, what’s needed is a compact home electrolyzer the size of a fridge/freezer, along with hydrogen handling/storage equipment. If/when these reach the price point of a geothermal heat pump, the market will explode in this sector too.

It remains to be seen, however, which technology will be used here. My gut feeling is that solutions from Bloom and Plug (SO/PEM) might be too expensive for these smaller applications. And in general, I suspect these companies will focus on larger industrial and other customer accounts in the coming years, where price pressure isn’t as significant as in the consumer business.

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What is the benefit of going from solar panels → a battery → electrolyzer → green hydrogen → fuel cell → electricity compared to going directly from solar panels through a battery to electricity for the home?

Share offering coming

https://investor.bloomenergy.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2022/Bloom-Energy-Corporation-Announces-Commencement-of-Public-Offering-of-Class-A-Common-Stock/default.aspx

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Could it be that the excess production from the solar power plant is first directed to batteries, and when they run out of space, hydrogen is produced? Hydrogen and batteries are used when the sun is not shining.

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Acute short-term energy storage, then hydrogen for longer periods, even months. The idea is to produce hydrogen when surplus energy is available and the batteries are already fully charged.

However, the share issue came at an opportune time, as the share price is at a somewhat tolerable level after the worst crash.

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That would work excellently in cold countries like Finland, where the benefit of solar energy is negligible during heating seasons, and stored hydrogen could be utilized then.

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Yes. The same applies to countries and regions with weak/unreliable networks – not to mention areas where no cables have been laid at all. And it scales well from a small house to a housing company or a neighborhood.

Here is Nilsson’s solution:

Demo Site / R&D Living-lab – Nilsson Energy

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13,000,000 new shares will be created…
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220815005701/en/Bloom-Energy-Corporation-Announces-Commencement-of-Public-Offering-of-Class-A-Common-Stock

In pre-market -5%.

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The company’s awaited release regarding hydrogen production in nuclear power plants:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/xcel-energy-bloom-energy-produce-122100803.html

announced plans to install an electrolyzer at the Xcel Energy (NASDAQ:XEL) Prairie Island Nuclear Generating Plant in Welch, Minnesota. The installation is designed to augment existing clean energy nuclear infrastructure to create immediate and scalable pathways to produce cost-efficient, clean hydrogen, supporting the growing hydrogen economy while enhancing value for operators of zero-carbon nuclear facilities.

Bloom Energy’s electrolyzer – built on its solid oxide platform – operates at high temperatures to convert water into hydrogen. Pairing solid oxide electrolysis with nuclear energy’s technology is a preferred method of unlocking unmatched efficiencies. The high heat and steam produced by Xcel Energy’s Prairie Island facility feeds into Bloom Energy’s electrolyzer to produce zero-carbon hydrogen more efficiently than low-temperature electrolysis alternatives like polymer electrolyte membrane (PEM) or alkaline. These low-temperature alternatives require roughly 40% more electricity, providing the Bloom electrolyzer an efficiency advantage that is expected to significantly drive down the cost of hydrogen production.

Of course, it’s a shame that the timeline is again very long for the most impatient (like myself):

Engineering for the 240 kW demonstration is currently underway, with construction expected to begin in late 2023 and power-on expected in early 2024.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/taylor-farms-taps-bloom-energy-100100699.html

And more orders. California has those electricity problems, and microgrids are the answer to them.

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Let’s bump this thread, as the earnings report is out today. The company also had positive news yesterday:

https://investor.bloomenergy.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2022/Bloom-Energy-Inaugurates-High-Volume-Electrolyzer-Production-Line/default.aspx

Bloom Energy Corporation (NYSE: BE), today, inaugurated its high volume commercial electrolyzer line at the company’s Newark facility, increasing the company’s generating capacity of electrolyzers to two gigawatts. The award-winning technology is the most energy-efficient design to produce clean hydrogen to date.

They had also removed the section related to this year’s forecasts from the September investor presentation. So, it remains to be seen if headwinds are coming, especially regarding whether they will achieve cash flow positive by the end of the year.

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SAN JOSE, Calif., November 03, 2022–Bloom Energy Corporation (NYSE: BE) today announced financial results for its third quarter ended September 30, 2022.

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What a relief that earnings report was! I’m confident enough to add more shares again, if I can free up funds from elsewhere. Management promises and delivers, and indeed reiterated the full-year outlook.

Record third quarter revenue of $292.3 million in 2022, an increase of 41.1% compared to $207.2 in the third quarter of 2021.

Gross Margin of 17.4% in the third quarter of 2022, compared to gross margin of 17.8% in the third quarter of 2021.

Non-GAAP gross margin was 19.1% in the third quarter of 2022, compared to non-GAAP gross margin of 19.2% in the third quarter of 2021.

The outlook was:

Bloom reaffirms outlook for the full-year 2022:

• Revenue $1.1 - $1.15 billion

• Product & Service Revenue $1 billion

• Non-GAAP Gross Margin ~24%

• Non-GAAP Operating Margin ~1%

• Cash Flow from Operations Positive

Q3 gross margin was 19.1%, operating equivalent was -9.8%, and operating cash flow was -$69.9 million. There’s a lot of work to do in Q4, especially with that cash flow. But I still have confidence. I’ll have to look for the transcript next.

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Here’s the transcription. I’m on parental leave and don’t have access to a computer, so I’ll skip making a summary this time. But please do read it yourself, the whole set is, in my opinion, convincing reading:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4552926-bloom-energy-corporation-be-q3-2022-earnings-call-transcript

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I also noticed this, where Bloom Energy is involved:

https://www.h2-view.com/story/midwest-us-coalition-to-submit-hydrogen-hub-funding-application-to-us-doe/

The Midwest Alliance for Clean Hydrogen (MachH2) has revealed it will submit an application to the US Department of Energy (DOE) for funding to develop a regional clean hydrogen hub.

MachH2, a multi-state coalition of public and private entities across the hydrogen value chain, plans to establish a hydrogen production and distribution hub in the Midwest of the US.

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Yes, that was impressive reading, thanks for the link!

My favorite in the hydrogen sector has long been Plug, but BE is quickly catching up and joining the same league. Bloom is working on some areas that Plug doesn’t have, at least not as actively at this stage. First, pink hydrogen. Based on KR’s speeches, Bloom has excellent opportunities with its SO-lysers in the nuclear power sector. Another promising avenue is waste-to-energy, where projects are smaller but numerous. Third, the marine sector, where the first deliveries have already been made. Then, if we consider data center projects, which both companies are enthusiastic about, Bloom might even have a slight head start because their energy server is already a fully developed product and runs on several fuels. Plug has mainly only prototyped its backup power plants with MS. Of course, giant customers will also require more or less customization of their plants from Bloom. What’s also fascinating about both companies is that they are involved in both main sectors of the hydrogen economy: hydrogen production and use, i.e., electrolyzers and fuel cells.

Last week, I downloaded figures for a few companies from Marketscreener, from which I could share, for example, these:

EV/Rev 2022 2023 2024
Plug 8.0 5.8 4.0
Bloom 2.5 1.9 1.4
McPhy 11.3 6.8 3.4
NEL 18.7 12.0 8.17
Enphase 16.5 11.9 9.4

I included NEL and McPhy for comparison, even though they are not fuel cell manufacturers. However, the explosive growth of electrolysis will certainly benefit these companies too. NEL was also my first hydrogen stock once upon a time, but I got rid of it when it started to feel like Løkke’s speeches were repeating themselves, and the can was being kicked down the road, until Løkke himself resigned. I also somewhat doubted how the Norwegians would access larger markets, where there’s often a bit of “home-team” favoritism. But this is not a recommendation in one direction or another. NEL may do excellently in the future if/when lyser demand comes even close to forecasts.

Most of all, in this comparison, I wonder about the expensiveness of European companies and/or the cheapness of US companies. All have growth forecasts roughly in the same ballpark, and all are operating at a loss. All of their cash reserves seem to last until the predicted profitability, so I don’t really understand why there are such large valuation differences. In fact, Bloom is the closest to positive cash flow among these, and next year should be in the black, even though capacity is doubling again. Yet, Bloom is by far the most affordable.

As I was reading this Bloom report, Enphase came to mind, which also has an Indian leader, by the way. I believe Bloom has every chance to follow Enphase’s path in valuation if the business progresses as communicated by the company. Enphase was also once a whipping boy and a favorite target for short-sellers, but strong and profitable growth quickly ended the games, resulting in the figures shown in the table above. Hope is a good thing to live by, as someone once said…

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Excellent text again, thank you @Von_Wangell. Bloom has done a great job over the past few years cutting costs, but not, in my opinion, at the expense of growth. There are plenty of orders and customers, and now we are starting to deliver after building up capacity. In the previous two years, management has given clear numerical targets, and especially this year, they have given clear quarterly milestones for the coming quarters on how revenue, in particular, will develop. At least at the moment, I have no reason to doubt the management’s statements and I fully trust that things will proceed as promised. That’s why Bloom is my largest hydrogen stock.

The SO (Solid Oxide) electrolyzer side seems to be the least competitive, as the majority of hydrogen companies use alkaline or PEM? Or at least that’s the impression I’ve gotten. However, SO is apparently the best for, for example, hydrogen produced by nuclear power, for which Bloom received excellent research results for its own devices earlier this year.

As a curiosity: Glen Griffiths, a member of the company’s management, actively sells and buys company shares, and it has generally been worthwhile to follow his lead. I haven’t done so myself, but I have noticed a correlation.

And one more thing: @Von_Wangell, you mentioned the valuations of some hydrogen companies. I would also bring up SFC Energy from Germany, whose EV/Sales, according to Marketscreener, is 3.76x for 2022 and 2.26x for 2023. The company, like Bloom, is also close to profitability and should reach it next year. So, there are cheaper hydrogen companies in Europe too.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bloom-energy-cefla-partner-italian-093000502.html

Bloom Continues European Expansion Through Italy:

Bloom Energy (NYSE:BE) has partnered with Cefla, a leading Italian engineering, procurement and construction company, for multiple megawatts (MW) of Bloom’s solid oxide fuel cells, expected to be deployed through 2025. The partnership will expand Bloom’s footprint in Italy and aid in Italian companies’ transition from traditional combustion-based sources of energy to a fuel-cell based Energy Server™ that can efficiently meet critical energy needs.

The partnership between Bloom and Cefla builds on each company’s leadership in energy, enlarging the clean tech suite of offerings available for Italian companies. Cefla will deploy Bloom’s highly efficient Energy Servers, which can be configured to replace traditional combined heat and power (CHP) systems, to address the gas reduction requirement recently approved by European Union energy ministers. Bloom’s fuel-flexible technology, which can operate on natural gas, biogas or hydrogen, produces electricity without combustion and reduces carbon emissions compared to the grid with near zero harmful smog-forming particulate matter. Over the last 90 years, Cefla has honed its expertise in the design, construction and management of cogeneration plants and energy efficiency projects in both buildings and industrial applications.

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Order to Taiwan from a week ago

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bloom-energy-expands-energy-platform-130100143.html

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