# Inquiries, dismay, and hype regarding stock prices and their changes (Part 4)
**URL:** https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881
**Category:** Osakkeet
**Tags:** kurssien-ja-niiden-kauhistelut-osa-4, kurssien-kauhistelut
**Created:** [April 23, 2025, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881 "2025-04-23T09:37:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Suppilovahvero](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Suppilovahvero)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2350 "2025-10-21T17:02:12Z")
Abloy. Bought in June. Diversification. Recommended by OP. Haven’t regretted it so far. Today ATH 🇸🇪
Tick to the lock and in the sun the key melted.
 [@Surffailija](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Surffailija)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2351 "2025-10-21T17:05:53Z")
My brain is tied in knots when the stock markets are just rallying and insiders are just selling. What am I not understanding about this whole thing now? I should probably just buy and be a happy citizen along with everyone else in the euphoria.
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### Author:  [@guarachando](https://forum.inderes.com/u/guarachando)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2352 "2025-10-21T17:34:27Z")
🪼 🐙 Kraken popped up (more).
I don’t know if there’s anything else (actual news or similar), but this is probably related: [https://x.com/transhumanica/status/1980263840752500854](https://x.com/transhumanica/status/1980263840752500854)
A lot of hype. As a counterbalance, a short critical review (I asked ChatGPT for it):
> The Transhumanica post makes a highly speculative causal chain — linking global geopolitics, U.S. naval procurement, Anduril’s drone strategy, and Kraken supposedly gaining a “virtual monopoly.” None of those links are verified or contractually established. The reasoning mixes real defense trends with large unproven assumptions (especially about Kraken’s integration with Anduril and revenue lock-in).
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### Author:  [@Koiramestari](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Koiramestari)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2353 "2025-10-21T17:44:45Z")
Has anyone else here noticed the potential for a Beyond Meat (BYND) short squeeze?
It seems that ~60% of the float is shorted and days to cover is over 8 days, even though trading volumes are increasing.
It has already added quite a bit of fuel to the fire from its lows, but if you compare this to the GME and AMC “bumtsibum” short squeezes of previous years, the journey seems to be still relatively early.
P.S. I do remember that for GME, at its peak, over 100% of the float was shorted, and Robinhood also had a hand in it when retail traders’ (literally ‘windbreaker wearers’) trading was restricted.
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### Author:  [@VainFiilis](https://forum.inderes.com/u/VainFiilis)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2354 "2025-10-21T17:54:10Z")
Today there was a proper correction in metals and mining stocks, with most stocks down about 10% or more. Of course, these corrections are expected when the sector becomes sufficiently overbought in a volatile industry, but timing them is a trickier matter. Interestingly, at the same time, among others, [lithium stocks](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/LIT/) have not really reacted to that correction, at least not yet, meaning there seems to be relative strength in them.
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### Author:  [@Odetus](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Odetus)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2355 "2025-10-21T18:53:55Z")
> [@OsinkoGuru](#):
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> I bought European banking giant BNP Paribas. Earlier I was watching it but missed the train. Now, on a small dip, I bought an initial position at 67.39
Quite an interesting target, but there’s also some risk involved.
"Giant bank BNP Paribas’s stock plummets – Court found it complicit in financing the Sudanese genocide
According to an analyst, French bank BNP Paribas may be forced to pay up to 10 billion dollars in compensation. According to the court’s ruling, the company violated U.S. sanctions by offering services to the Sudanese government."
> **[Jättipankki BNP Paribasin osake syöksyy – Oikeus katsoi osalliseksi Sudanin...](https://www.kauppalehti.fi/uutiset/a/3960f2a5-b2ef-45a8-aba9-c564e6567081)**
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> Ranskalaispankki BNP Paribas voi analyytikon mukaan taipua maksamaan jopa 10 miljardin dollarin korvaukset. Oikeuden tuomion mukaan yhtiö rikkoi Yhdysvaltain pakotteita tarjotessaan palveluita Sudanin hallinnolle.
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### Author:  [@Sijoittaja-alokas](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Sijoittaja-alokas)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2356 "2025-10-21T19:19:02Z")
@Jukka_Lepikko’s tweet about gold’s wild day of decline, but of course… as can be seen from the chart and read in the text, it has also had time to rise. 🙂
[https://x.com/JukkaLepikko/status/1980661151596945657](https://x.com/JukkaLepikko/status/1980661151596945657)
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### Author:  [@Sijoittaja-alokas](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Sijoittaja-alokas)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2357 "2025-10-21T21:32:54Z")
My stock portfolio has performed so well this year (I’m in profit) and I notice I’ve become arrogant, but luckily PYN Elite calms me down a bit:
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### Author:  [@Marmoset](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Marmoset)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2358 "2025-10-22T04:46:17Z")
So then, about ISRG’s customs concerns.
**After Hours: Last | 10/21/25 EDT**
**541.72 +78.98 (+17.07%)**
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### Author:  [@Suppilovahvero](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Suppilovahvero)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2359 "2025-10-22T11:11:13Z")
**Fodelia** Q3 and all figures below analysts’ estimates. And what does the stock price do. Oh for f\*\*\*'s sake, this stock market world!? A small investor still has a lot to wonder about and learn. I’ll probably never learn, but I gladly accept something like this. Let’s see what my darling, Kempo, does next Friday.
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### Author:  [@Ilkka6](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Ilkka6)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 12:12pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2360 "2025-10-22T12:12:13Z")
> [@Ilkka6](#):
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> The meme stock crowd has found Beyond Meat’s stock in a short squeeze spirit.
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> [https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/21/one-time-penny-stock-beyond-meat-soars-after-addition-to-meme-etf-jumps-47percent-on-tuesday.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/21/one-time-penny-stock-beyond-meat-soars-after-addition-to-meme-etf-jumps-47percent-on-tuesday.html)
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> [https://www.barrons.com/articles/beyond-meat-meme-stock-price-0961d3c6](https://www.barrons.com/articles/beyond-meat-meme-stock-price-0961d3c6)
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> 
It has already gone up at least +119% in pre-market. Right now +82% in pre-market. 😬
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### Author:  [@Hapzu](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Hapzu)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2361 "2025-10-22T12:14:06Z")
We were probably expecting worse. It had already plunged to a completely different level compared to where it was before the profit warning.
[Fodelia: Laskenut ohjeistus vaikuttaa realistiselta - Inderes](https://www.inderes.fi/research/fodelia-laskenut-ohjeistus-vaikuttaa-realistiselta)
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### Author:  [@ValkoinenPeura](https://forum.inderes.com/u/ValkoinenPeura)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2362 "2025-10-22T12:19:56Z")
With these small and illiquid companies, it’s always a bit of a guess where the price will move and for what reason. That’s why the valuations of these boutiques should have a discount of tens of percentage points compared to large peers when looking at key figures. Inderes does sometimes get them flying with their analyses, but exiting is usually as difficult as entering.
Pricing is therefore not efficient in any way.
E: Just to corroborate this, shares worth approximately €50k were traded on the earnings day.
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### Author:  [@Kultapossu1](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Kultapossu1)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2363 "2025-10-22T12:23:38Z")
Just by browsing WSB and Shareville, one can see that this phenomenon is attracting a lot of attention. I’m far from an expert on this phenomenon, but apart from the recent Walmart collaboration announcement, there doesn’t seem to be any positive fundamentals supporting it. I’d guess many current owners are just trying to save their own skin on the back of this phenomenon, meaning I’d assume the road to the top is quite steep.
As a speculative phenomenon, it’s quite interesting, which is why I took a small monitoring position yesterday. Knowing the outcome, it’s also a bit regrettable, because so many will get their fingers burned badly here.
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### Author:  [@Vodel1](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Vodel1)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2364 "2025-10-22T13:49:29Z")
Purely a short squeeze and meme-hype going on with BYND now, meaning even though debts were converted into shares, it seems the can was only kicked a little further down the road. This stock isn’t doing anything like Carvana, i.e., from ruin back to a good profit.
If the company has the opportunity to do another offering at a higher level, they would get a good amount of cash now, but it might be that such an opportunity is not available now.
Currently, the veggie patties are really flying. Trading volume is 1/4 of yesterday’s 2 billion in the first 10 minutes, so there’s still hype fuel in the tank.
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### Author:  [@Keepitcoming](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Keepitcoming)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2365 "2025-10-22T14:00:54Z")
Well, that 6% jump is clear… [Ukraina ostaa Ruotsista yli sata Jas Gripen -hävittäjää | Uutissuomalainen | Keskisuomalainen](https://www.ksml.fi/uutissuomalainen/8941813)
Quite a week in the portfolio, Novo’s board out, Evo got the author details of the smear campaign press release, and now this possible Saab deal… quite something.
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### Author:  [@Jylpyz](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Jylpyz)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2366 "2025-10-22T14:10:50Z")
You invested in these:
And the result so far is this
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### Author:  [@Equilibrium](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Equilibrium)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2367 "2025-10-22T14:12:26Z")
Are you still on board, or when do you start easing off?
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### Author:  [@Jylpyz](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Jylpyz)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2368 "2025-10-22T14:14:28Z")
Yeah, sure. Somewhere where the odds are at the competitors’ level.
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### Author:  [@Vodel1](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Vodel1)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/kurssien-ja-niiden-muutosten-kyselyt-kauhistelut-ja-hehkuttelut-osa-4/61881/2369 "2025-10-22T14:31:06Z")
If that still holds true, will it be broken by BYND today?
Only the first hour has passed and almost a billion shares are already accumulated 😯
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