There should really be an FAQ in every company thread, as it seems the same arguments go in circles, and the forum’s search function is so poor that old answers to these questions are impossible to find.
I’ll try to compile answers to these questions now and save this response to my bookmarks so I can always find these answers in the future when these issues come up. Many of these are my own writings, although many other writers have certainly had better ones, but my own were easier to find. ![]()
First, I’d like to recommend that investors unfamiliar with Kamux’s operations start with these excellent and concise videos, available on Kamux’s investor pages, to get acquainted with the basics:
Now, to the arguments:
- Kamux has no competitive advantages
Kamux operates in retail, which is a low-margin business where efficient operational activity and strict cost control yield a small positive profit. Many small/inefficient operators struggle with zero profit, and profit relies on high volume and fast inventory turnover. This is not an industry with patents or unique products like some technology companies. The company also has a track record of almost 20 years of profitable growth, which in itself should be a strong indication that the company does have some competitive advantages.
A couple of posts on the topic:
- Kamux defrauds customers and receives a huge number of consumer complaints
Kamux does not receive a particularly large number of complaints relative to its market share. As a large operator, it naturally receives more complaints in terms of quantity than smaller operators, but not in proportion to sales. When comparing different industries, it’s good to note that with used cars, there tend to be some faults that are unknown at the time of sale, because the cost structure doesn’t allow for every car to be scrutinized from top to bottom (and even then, not all faults would be caught). Kamux then sells extended warranty products to those who want them and handles complaints appropriately, with a small percentage of these ending up at consumer dispute boards, etc.
It’s worth reading Petri’s excellent article on the subject:
- Kamux only sells diesels, even though electric cars are the future
Kamux’s inventory turnover is less than 2 months, so the inventory changes very quickly according to what is profitable to sell. It’s only a matter of time before most cars sold by Kamux are hybrids/electric cars; this will happen naturally as the car fleet electrifies. Used electric cars don’t just appear out of nowhere, especially when there are delivery challenges for new ones (and they still need to be driven for a while before they “become” used). In general, it would be good to understand a basic fact: Kamux does not manufacture cars itself but buys and sells them, so the sales mix can easily change with the market and demand.
A couple of posts on the topic:
- Competitors (especially Saka) are overtaking from the right and left, and new players are disrupting the entire industry
Saka is (for now) only a local operator in Finland. Saka’s growth figures have been better than Kamux’s, but Kamux’s investment case is not based on Finland but on international markets, which are on a completely different scale than Finland. The Finnish used car market can certainly accommodate several large players (cf. e.g., food or daily consumer goods retail), and primarily, all these can still grow at the expense of smaller local operators who cannot compete. Kamux can indeed conduct profitable business in Finland in the future, although increasing competition may certainly impact margins. However, as stated, Finland’s share in the investment case is constantly decreasing.
Here’s Petri’s good deliberation on Saka:
Regarding C2C sales platforms, the trend actually shows that trade through dealerships is growing at the expense of consumer-to-consumer trade and is particularly focused on newer cars:
Of course, technological innovations will emerge in this sector too, but it’s not one of the fastest industries to be disrupted. Compare it to, for example, real estate brokerage: there have been and will be innovations there too, but the business models themselves haven’t significantly changed.
- Management doesn’t know what they’re doing / growth will dry up soon / the whole company will go bankrupt, etc.
I’ll just leave this 15-year track record here:
And before someone points out the forecast declining profitability percentage, it’s worth familiarizing yourself with Kamux’s new strategic targets published in 2021, for example, from here:
This was a long post, but hopefully, we can always refer back to this message when these questions arise again. Please let me know if any frequently repeated claim was missed from the list so it can be added here (or if there’s a particularly good answer to any question in the thread that I didn’t link, please add that too).
