# Inderes Coffee Room (Part 11)
**URL:** https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919
**Category:** Viihde
**Created:** [January 12, 2026, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919 "2026-01-12T11:48:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Alan\_Dorkin\_Jr](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Alan_Dorkin_Jr)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8314 "2026-11-10T14:10:04Z")
> [@Geologiopiskelija](#):
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> Consumers have no faith in the future, yet they are still dumping more money into consumption than before?
And I really don’t see how Finns are supposedly dumping money into consumption? Sure, there has been some recovery, but that’s certainly explained in part by the fact that after tightening our belts for years, you simply have to make those postponed purchases eventually.
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### Author:  [@Ilkka6](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Ilkka6)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8315 "2026-11-10T14:13:11Z")
> [@Farseer](#):
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> Tell me some ways to survive and unwind in Finland in November.
The gym! From April to November, I go to the city’s outdoor gym, and from December to March, an indoor gym.
Also, the dark season is great for playing computer games. Over the past few weeks, I’ve played Outer Wilds 🪐 (a masterpiece!) and Shadow Warrior 2 🥷 (fun!).
> **[Outer Wilds Steamissä](https://store.steampowered.com/app/753640/Outer_Wilds/)**
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> Named Game of the Year 2019 by Giant Bomb, Polygon, Eurogamer, and The Guardian, Outer Wilds is a critically-acclaimed and award-winning open world mystery about a solar system trapped in an endless time loop.
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### Author:  [@Farseer](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Farseer)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8316 "2026-11-10T14:19:28Z")
Ugh, I hate the cold and gyms. I had a one-year gym membership once back in the day and went five times. Maybe I should finally get that walking pad fixed up.
For clarification, I’m already doing these things:
Bright light lamp
Vitamin supplements
Hot baths in the jacuzzi
WoW Forever
And more on the work side of things: poker, investing, and YouTube videos.
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### Author:  [@Insinoori](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Insinoori)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8317 "2026-11-10T14:19:37Z")
On that note, I have to share a little story from as far back as yesterday. During the day, before a meeting, I popped into the Stockmann flagship store in downtown Helsinki and spent a moment watching the shoppers. Usually at Stocka—and in similar department stores in general—there are some, well, several, unhurriedly brisk, impeccably dressed customers clearly wearing their “spending pants” under their stylish wool coats. This is easiest to spot either by the multiple paper shopping bags in hand or the stack of items draped over their arm.
Yesterday, I saw exactly one of them. Hurried lunchgoers, elderly grandmas, lifelong customers leaning on rollators, and wage slaves like me killing time in windbreakers were there in droves, though. Maybe some of them had money too, who knows. Wish they’d spend it.
Our economic situation could really use more of the wool coat crowd. You know, the kind who without batting an eye drop a grand on clothes and pick up some jewelry for the wife/partner “just because the weather is so nice.”
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### Author:  [@Lars74](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Lars74)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8318 "2026-11-10T14:27:05Z")
[theinformation.com](http://theinformation.com) writes behind a paywall that, through connections, $7.5 billion worth of hardware that shouldn’t have been sold to China allegedly ended up there. If this information is true, he’ll have to strike quite a good deal with the new ruling party if he plans on remaining CEO and a free man.
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### Author:  [@Torniojaws](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Torniojaws)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8319 "2026-11-10T14:48:05Z")
Maybe companies are generating money more efficiently (whatever the reason), but because it doesn’t trickle down to wages, consumption doesn’t grow. And when people don’t believe in future pay raises either, they tighten their belts, and consumption drops even further?
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### Author:  [@janmik](https://forum.inderes.com/u/janmik)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8320 "2026-11-10T15:14:20Z")
Should have guessed.
[Silicon Mush Man](https://www.economist.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=960,quality=80,format=auto/content-assets/images/20260905_DE_US.jpg) (The Economist)
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### Author:  [@minij](https://forum.inderes.com/u/minij)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8321 "2026-11-10T15:30:00Z")
This isn’t a criticism of your post, but in the bigger picture it shows how twisted our society is if its success/well-being is measured by how much stuff we buy that we don’t fundamentally need…
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### Author:  [@Aleksiron](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Aleksiron)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8322 "2026-11-10T15:48:43Z")
Any Japanese knife enthusiasts here? Got a new chef’s knife today: a Hatsukokoro Ryuhyo kurozome 24cm gyuto. Next to it is the 15cm version from the same series. You really get hooked on these 😅
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### Author:  [@janmik](https://forum.inderes.com/u/janmik)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8323 "2026-11-10T16:03:56Z")
We’re friends, and besides that, I can recommend Japanese saws for woodworking.
[Japanilaiset sahat](https://www.plektratrading.fi/kasityokalut/sahat/japanilaiset-sahat/c/2301/) (Plektra Trading)
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### Author:  [@Nordman01](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Nordman01)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8324 "2026-11-10T16:10:07Z")
Personally, I enjoy not having to wear sunglasses outside anymore. One option is to do things you can’t be bothered to do during the summer, like watching movies/series, gaming, and an absolute must is heating up the sauna almost every evening and enjoying a few malt beverages.
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### Author:  [@Monte\_Cristo](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Monte_Cristo)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8325 "2026-11-10T16:12:16Z")
Well, I’d have to lie about that, and you probably don’t want that 😉. Agreed, and that’s why a bit further south here today the winter temperature is +24… no regrets this winter either, and it saves money when you don’t need winter tires for the car 👍.
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### Author:  [@Mika12345](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Mika12345)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8326 "2026-11-10T16:18:00Z")
Well, I don’t really know about that. You don’t have to tell everything, even if you do enjoy some honey. One’s got to enjoy life, after all….
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### Author:  [@xlat](https://forum.inderes.com/u/xlat)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8327 "2026-11-10T16:22:08Z")
Came across this image, and it brought back memories of those times (I was already in the market throughout that entire period). As a monthly saver, I kept buying more all the time, but I definitely wondered many times what the point of investing was when things were just constantly going down. 😃 Fortunately, I managed to invest in more lucrative markets than the US, so by 2007 the returns were already pretty good, especially compared to having invested the money as a lump sum…
I won’t try to predict the future, but it’s good to keep in mind that sometimes “long term” can mean a genuinely long term. After the dot-com bubble, it took about 7 years to get back to break-even and slightly above, and immediately after that came a horrible crash.
I only have indexed return history from 2008 onwards (when I switched to Nordnet), and that history looks unusually good since the starting point is a crashed market. It would be nice to see the return curve for my entire investment history, but piecing it together now is impossible.
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### Author:  [@kirkland](https://forum.inderes.com/u/kirkland)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8328 "2026-11-10T16:51:22Z")
> [@Zomma](#):
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> Does a financially independent person really need those certificates for anything anymore? I keep my own university degree certificate in a cabinet at home along with other miscellaneous papers. As for employment certificates, I don’t even remember where they are. Maybe some immigration points system in some country, or visa facilitation for professionals in certain fields?
Probably not once you’ve reached the finish line, but along the way you might… I’ve been asked for certificates in one job interview, even though by that point it had been well over a decade since I graduated. HR process, you see.
And it might be nice for some future genealogist that the papers don’t completely mold away in storage.
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### Author:  [@Ka-ching](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Ka-ching)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8329 "2026-11-10T19:13:15Z")
Bingo. You just can’t use anything else. It’s just a pity that most knives have a handle that’s too long, and a short bolster/neck between the handle and the blade. It makes the knife clumsy. And they are expensive. But once you get used to them, you can’t live without them either.
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### Author:  [@Letkajenkka](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Letkajenkka)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8330 "2026-11-10T20:02:44Z")
I don’t remember who threw this out here a few months ago, but it was a good quip, something along the lines of “bought Valmet; when the AI bubble deflates by the end of the year, people will need tissue paper to wipe away the tears” 🤣
Comes to mind when looking at how quickly the valuation multiples of some companies are normalizing.
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### Author:  [@Divinesia](https://forum.inderes.com/u/Divinesia)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8331 "2026-11-10T20:06:11Z")
Still have faith that this isn’t a long-term tech dip. But if it is, I’ll be overweighting tech even more come winter.
I only just recently got convinced by AI in my own job, too. A sure sign of a bubble… 😁
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### Author:  [@xlat](https://forum.inderes.com/u/xlat)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8332 "2026-11-10T21:13:09Z")
This “trash streaming” really is the kind of “profession” you wouldn’t wish on anyone. At first glance, someone might think it’s a great idea to fund their binge drinking by making it public, but things easily get out of hand. Ten grand is a lot of money, but if you have to drink for 19 days straight to get it, there’s nothing healthy about that at all.
You can only hope this trend passes quickly.
> **[Rahaton Iida osti viinapullon ja pani liven päälle – Nyt juominen elättää hänet](https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/da93c6fd-b420-4fd6-8b26-3794f668627c)**
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> Iida Kurvinen sanoo, että toistaiseksi striimaaminen tuntuu työltä, jota hän haluaa jatkaa tulevaisuudessakin. Rappiostriimaamiseen liittyvä itsetuhoinen käytös on viime aikoina herättänyt huolta laajalti.
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### Author:  [@xlat](https://forum.inderes.com/u/xlat)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.inderes.com/t/inderesin-kahvihuone-osa-11/71919/8333 "2026-11-10T21:46:54Z")
What kind of bug is this in Google Finance, where **Ferrari’s** ticker and logo are correct, but the company name has changed?
This has happened before; I once already thought that a Japanese company had changed its name, but even then it was just a bug that fixed itself over time.
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