Dynacert - Canadian expertise

[jaska7]

Well, this probably deserves its own thread, as the energy sector thread has been nothing but Dynacert lately.

It’s a Canadian company whose operations are based on HydraGEN™ technology. The company is listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and trading can also be done on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange in Germany.

In short, the company’s operations are based on technology that significantly reduces emissions from diesel engines, for example in heavy transport equipment and construction machinery, with the help of hydrogen. Here’s a video that briefly explains the technology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myNZai_oqkQ

Dynacert’s product simply sounds too good to be true, but valid certificates for Hydragen exist, like this one: dynaCERT Obtains European Approval of its Hydrogen

The unit cost for the product is estimated at $8k, and the company also promises the following for the product:
“Customers who contract through their Dealer for a minimum 2-year term subscription of HydraGEN™ Technology are eligible for the KarbonKleen money-back guarantee if their registered trucks drive at least 5000 miles (8,047 kilometres) per month, which is measured by dynaCERT’s new telemetry system, HydraLytica™. If dynaCERT’s HydraGEN™ Technology doesn’t save such client more than its subscription price, KarbonKleen indicates that it will refund the subscription cost, thereby offering users risk-free “Guaranteed Results””

But why get involved?

In December 2019, Dynacert announced a collaboration with the Mosolf Group, and Joerg Mosolf, President & CEO of the Mosolf Group, increased his personal investment in the company. The Mosolf Group is a strong German family business operating in the automotive industry. Here are a few related quotes that sound very promising (incredible) scenarios.

“On the Rhine River, MOSOLF is initiating marine applications by installing dynaCERT’s HydraGEN™ Technology on one of the RoRo inland vessels, MS Terra, owned by the Dutch shipping company F. Elbert B.V. in turn owned by shipper Mr. Frans Elbert. The vessel has a loading capacity of 175 commercial vehicles of the Sprinter class or 250 cars.”

“MOSOLF is also installing dynaCERT’s HydraGEN™ Technology on the largest shipping line in Europe, the Grimaldi Group, owned by the Grimaldi family.”

“Dr. Mosolf is already in negotiations with the German military, the BUNDESWEHR, to install dynaCERT’s HydraGEN™ Technology, with the support of Mrs. Smietje Möller, a member of the German Parliament.”

“Dr. Mosolf has commenced negotiations with the Minister of Transport of Germany to further support the widespread introduction of dynaCERT’s HydraGEN™ Technology on a national German level and also on a broader European level. As a follow-up to these government meetings, more meetings are also already set up this month with the Minister of the Economy.”

Here’s a link to the December 2019 press release: https://dynacert.com/FileServer/customforms/go-dynacerts/php/tmp/1/2019-12-16%20dynaCERT%20Announces%20Strategic%20Investment%20by%20Mosolf%20in%20Europe.pdf

In addition, Canadian billionaire Eric Sprott joined in November 2019: dynaCERT Welcomes Eric Sprott as a Significant New

Only one firm tracks Dynacert, and that is GBC AG. Their analysts are Julien Desrosiers and Matthias Greiffenberger. From the depths of the internet, I found their report from September, and their target price is set at 1.9 CAD. Extremely high growth targets are already included in that price. See image below.

The full analysis can be found here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjUt4uei4HnAhXH-ioKHQj1CgsQFjABegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsectornewswire.com%2Fdya-analyst-report-19029.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0PpxEwYATjHCZaiFaB2691

Dynacert’s CEO, Jim Payne, was interviewed in December 2019. The interview is unfortunately in German, but Google Translate can give you the main points. Here’s the link to the interview: EQS News – Financial News & Events Directly From The Source

If you’ve managed to read my rough scribblings this far, you’re probably wondering what caused the share price jump in spring 2017 and why it has since declined, rising again to around 1 CAD in 2020. That analysis briefly touched upon the company’s history, and here’s a screenshot from the historical section of the analysis.

Patents? There are 4 of them, but my competence doesn’t extend to analyzing them. One would imagine these could provide a few years’ head start over competitors (if competitors are found, they’ll be added to this paragraph) https://patents.justia.com/assignee/dynacert-inc

I stumbled upon the company a few weeks ago on Twitter, so I haven’t had much time to delve into it, and there’s a very high risk of losing all your invested capital IMO.

[Sam2007]

https://tmxmatrix.com/company/DYA

I’ve been following the course there myself.

If someone knows a better one, let me know.

Edit: Any TA guys out there, I’m interested in what TA says about the stock?

[terva_xyz]

Also found on the US OTC list DYFSF

@Sam2007 great find. Up-to-date (free ) course data is a big thumbs up

[DayTraderXL]

You should stick to the macroeconomics forum and leave these energy threads alone. You’re not interested in what the common people are up to, but don’t come here messing things up with your ramblings either.

[Gadus]

@DayTraderXL

Your comment here was appropriate, right?

At the point where startup-level companies are being hyped with market values of hundreds of millions and near-zero sales, everyone needs to know what they are investing in and the risks involved.

e. And you two try to be civil. Sorry, I just had to say it, but it’s the same thing from one thread to another

[DayTraderXL]

Absolutely, and these have been warned about in threads. Please chip in and tell us something concrete about this company, for example!

[Sam2007]

There’s a glass ceiling in the way, can’t climb over it.

[terva_xyz]

There’s still a bit of a way to go to reach previous course peaks, so at the very latest, there will be greater resistance there. Before that, the psychological $1 level needs to be overcome for the course to rise (it’s currently hovering around that level). The course is starting to resemble a rounding bottom, and I, for one, would expect some kind of cup&handle pattern before long, meaning a pullback and a new rise, roughly as drawn in blue at some point. The RSI is already overbought even at the monthly level, so the course level would need some concrete news to stay up. A small dip could be quite healthy if news isn’t heard soon.

Here’s a good reminder of the possible consequences of exceeding the dollar: (larger investors get buying permission)
Quoted from @jaska1’s discovery in the Energy Thread

@jaska1

[Seinakadun_Keisari]

@Gadus

@DayTraderXL

Your comment here was appropriate, right?

At a stage when start-up level companies are being hyped with market values in the hundreds of millions and almost zero sales, everyone needs to know what they are investing in and the risks involved.

e. And you two try to behave like humans. Sorry, I just had to say it, but it’s the same thing from one thread to another

I think everyone knows the risks, this has been discussed a lot in the energy thread. A lottery ticket with high risk, stakes accordingly.

[g3235286]

There have always been these lottery tickets. Now, in the buy/sell thread, most of the latest purchases are of this particular company. It’s just a coincidence that everyone is now buying the same lottery tickets.

[terva_xyz]

Lottery ticket or not, I bought it because I believe in the product.

[Seinakadun_Keisari]

@g3235286

There have always been these lottery tickets. Now, in the buy/sell thread, most of the latest purchases are of this particular company. Coincidentally, everyone is now buying the same lottery tickets.

So what? It’s not bothering you, is it?

[Gadus]

Someone might be following the energy thread, but now that a new thread is being opened, it’s quite appropriate to point out

I’d argue that a significant portion of forum members are at an beginner level, meaning their understanding of stocks, valuation, financial figures, etc., is weak, and they largely rely on analyses from entities like Inderes.

It’s good that the thread starter later added more info so that it doesn’t turn into pure hype.

[jaska7]

I don’t want to cram everything into the opening post, so

In that interview, Jim Payne talks about refrigerated trucks/reefers. I’m not familiar with the technology, but do the cooling systems of these trucks run on diesel, or did I misunderstand the video discussion?

@Gadus the initial post of the thread was very brief. I opened the thread quickly because the energy thread was filled with Dynacert messages and a new thread was appropriate.

[MoneyWalker]

Car cooling systems are powered by a compressor driven by the engine. In vans, the engine is generally electric. In larger cargo areas, the car’s own diesel engine powers the compressor. Trailers can also have a cooling unit with its own two-liter diesel engine. This allows the trailer to be left alone in a parking lot, perhaps waiting for the distribution round to continue.

[MoneyWalker]

It’s perfectly reasonable to warn about the risks of investing.

I myself spent the weekend reading all the references posted here and a bit more. I recommend the same to anyone considering investing in this.

Major risks:

• unreliable technology
• warranty processing costs underestimated
• competitors quickly copy the technology

Edit: I own Dynacert.

[Emhoo]

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[jaska7]

“Dr. Mosolf has commenced negotiations with the Minister of Transport of Germany to further support the widespread introduction of dynaCERT’s HydraGEN™ Technology on a national German level and also on a broader European level. As a follow-up to these government meetings, more meetings are also already set up this month with the Minister of the Economy.”

This made me wonder, could this even be part of Germany’s hydrogen strategy? It was promised for the end of 2019, but is still being worked on by the federal government.

[Seinakadun_Keisari]

@Gadus

Someone might follow the energy chain, but now that a new chain is being opened, it’s quite relevant to point out.

I claim that a significant portion of forum members are at a beginner level, meaning their understanding of stocks, valuation, financial figures, etc., is poor, and they are largely dependent on analyses from entities like Inderes.

It’s good that the thread starter provided additional info retrospectively, so it doesn’t just become pure hype.

We absolutely cannot assume that we should refrain from opening threads just because there are beginners among the readers. I’m sure even beginners understand not to go all-in on a company that is just starting sales.

And every investor makes those basic mistakes anyway.

[viljo]

Alright, gnumerot, your point is clear by now: there’s a big risk in these.

My portfolio is now 680k after Hoivatilat turned into cash; I have 2k EUR in Dynacert. And I intend to have about 40k in hydrogen investments. Are the risks okay?